All Things Star Wars thread

[Deskgrunt50]

Seems like we have a bunch of different threads. Mabye time to consolodate into one with the second season of Andor starting and some other movie projects coming up.

I really liked the first three epiosodes of Andor 2. Same slow burn as the first season. Characters allowed to devlop. A good look at how much it takes for a rebellion to come together and take hold.

Krennic is such a great character, and wonderfully acted by Ben Mendelsohn. The meeting scene is among the best of the new season. Casually discussing the possibility of genocide over lunch.

I'm sure the main critiscim is that it's "too slow." I thought maybe the second episode could've been tighter. But I'm in no hurry with this series.

Diego Luna continues to be great in the titular role. As is Adria Arjona. And my goodness is she a smoke show.

 

[outofplace]

Seems like we have a bunch of different threads. Mabye time to consolodate into one with the second season of Andor starting and some other movie projects coming up.

I really liked the first three epiosodes of Andor 2. Same slow burn as the first season. Characters allowed to devlop. A good look at how much it takes for a rebellion to come together and take hold.

Krennic is such a great character, and wonderfully acted by Ben Mendelsohn. The meeting scene is among the best of the new season. Casually discussing the possibility of genocide over lunch.

I'm sure the main critiscim is that it's "too slow." I thought maybe the second episode could've been tighter. But I'm in no hurry with this series.

Diego Luna continues to be great in the titular role. As is Adria Arjona. And my goodness is she a smoke show.

So say we all. (I know. Wrong franchise. Frack off.)

The pacing isn't bothering me nearly as much as it did during the first season. I wonder if that is a function of them dropping three episodes at a time.

 

[Deskgrunt50]

Next three episodes (4-6) are even better, IMO. And I agree, this is a pretty good way to do it, three eps at a time.

It does the politics aspect much better than the prequels. Much better written and nuanced. The whole series is a great spy thriller. And this set of episodes does an excellent job with the tension around the heist (avoiding spoilers here for now).

The scene with Mothma and Krennic is outstanding.

 

[Shropshire Slasher]

Do, or do not. There is no "try."

Never was a big fan of the Star Wars franchise, but this Yoda quote always stuck with me.

 

[outofplace]

Do, or do not. There is no "try."

Never was a big fan of the Star Wars franchise, but this Yoda quote always stuck with me.

Oddly enough, I saw a video about Nemik inspiring Andor with a manifesto that ends by saying the opposite during the first season. I missed this the first time around. I watched it, but I wasn't paying close enough attention. The show hadn't fully captured my then. It certainly has now.

"Remember this. Try."



The idea was that taking on the Empire seemed so daunting and hopeless, but they had to try anyway. Most of the rebels are doomed. They won't live to see the Empire fall, but they must believe their efforts will make it possible. Luthen addresses the same issue in his monologue late in the first season.

"I burn my decency for someone else's future. I burn my life to make a sunrise I will never see."

The monologues alone make it worth watching.

 

[DanOregon]

Happy Holiday Nerds!!!

 

[outofplace]

By the way, all episodes of Tales of the Underworld dropped Sunday. The animated episodes focus on Asajj Ventress and Cad Bane.

 

[DanOregon]

THIS is SO PERFECT!!!! All of it.

 

[outofplace]

THIS is SO PERFECT!!!! All of it.
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Nice. Looks like they have been doing that for years. I found a story about it from 2018.

 

[Deskgrunt50]

Andor episodes 7-9 are absolutely outstanding. All excellent from start to finish.

No spoilers, but the the line delivered in Episode 8, “Who are you?” is among the best moments in the history of the franchise. As is Mothma’s speech and that entire sequence in Episode 9.

The series, particularly these three episodes, remind me of the Jason Bourne movies. In the best possible way.

 

[Starman]

Eps. 8 and 9 have strong overtones of "Children of Men," which I am sure is completely intentional.

 

[Retired_Scribe]

I haven't rewatched to confirm, but I think there's a plot hole in Episode 9.
Early in the ep, Cassian is at Luthen's and his assistant is preparing his fake credential. Cassian is holding a knife. I'm fairly certain Luthen's assistant says there are no weapons (blasters) allowed in the senate.
Then during Mothma's escape, the female "spy" stops them holding a smuggled blaster. She's distracted and Cassian whips out his blaster to kill her.
How did he get past security with a blaster?

 

[HeinekenMan]

Maybe it was in his boot. That's the universal Star Wars loophole.

 

[sgreenwell]

Andor finished up - God damn, what a show, especially season two. I loved the 3-episode arcs, and felt they really helped with having a season-long arc with notable things happening along the way. And the ending was an emotional gut punch in a good way.

 

[Deskgrunt50]

Just an excellent series. Take it out of the Star Wars universe and it stands on its own as a spy thriller/drama.

The last three episodes are quieter thant 8 and 9. And they needed to be since episodes 10-12 lead straight up to Rogue One, which would basically be a long epiosde 13 of Andor.

The series, to me, is in the same league of the best of any of the movies going back to 1977.

 

[Starman]

According to the more or less official Wookieepedia:

Poe Dameron is "the child of rebel heroes," and was born in 2 ABY.

The child of Bix (and presumably Cassian) shown at the end of Andor is less than a year old, so can reasonably be assumed to have been born in 0 ABY or 1 BBY.

Supposedly most of the SW powers that be have emphatically emphasized that Bix's child is not Poe Dameron. But really, it almost makes too much sense -- they wouldn't have to really retcon out anything officially stated as canon or anything.

And it wouldn't change the storyline of the sequels at all -- at most Poe's birth year would have to be fudged a couple years.

 

[Deskgrunt50]

I don’t think they’ll go that route with the kid. I hope they don’t. Not everyone has to be related. It’s a big galaxy. Poe, as I understand it, has a pretty defined lineage.

More likely, the kid is just a sign of hope to end an unavoidably dark series. Andor sacrificed his life for the cause. He’s dead, but his love and his child live on.

 

[2muchcoffeeman]

According to the more or less official Wookieepedia:

Poe Dameron is "the child of rebel heroes," and was born in 2 ABY.

The child of Bix (and presumably Cassian) shown at the end of Andor is less than a year old, so can reasonably be assumed to have been born in 0 ABY or 1 BBY.

Supposedly most of the SW powers that be have emphatically emphasized that Bix's child is not Poe Dameron. But really, it almost makes too much sense -- they wouldn't have to really retcon out anything officially stated as canon or anything.

And it wouldn't change the storyline of the sequels at all -- at most Poe's birth year would have to be fudged a couple years.

Canon response: Poe Dameron was born on Yavin 4, per Wookiepedia, to parents Shara Bey and Kes Dameron. She flew an A-wing with Green Squadron, while he was a commando in the Rebel Pathfinders. That’s all settled history at this point.

 

[Starman]

Heh. Yeah. Settled history, like Anakin Skywalker throwing Palpatine down the reactor shaft.

I still go with the theory that Lor San Tekka was actually an exiled and undercover Bail Organa, who had been in transit to Alderaan when the planet was destroyed.

 

[Starman]

This is interesting