Kerry Wood and Mark Prior should look into this

[indiansnetwork]

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=jp-marshall051007&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
Another great article by a yahoo sports writer. These guys are excellent and I enjoy reading them every day.
I don't see anyone else bringing to the table this sort of interesting stuff. This is exactly what writers should be focused on. Instead of creating negative controversy with steroids they should be focused on the things that most impact the game and how injuries have tripled for major league pitchers in the last 30 years.

 

[GB-Hack]

Yep, two weeks after it was published and discussed on here, the network found it.

Fine work there.

 

[BYH]

Yeah. Nobody ****ing posted this Mike Marshall story earlier.

"Negative controversy." Dude, seriously, take a ****ing English class before you post here.

****ing idiot.

 

[Hammer Pants]

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=jp-marshall051007&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
Another great article by a yahoo sports writer. These guys are excellent and I enjoy reading them every day.
I don't see anyone else bringing to the table this sort of interesting stuff. This is exactly what writers should be focused on. Instead of creating negative controversy with steroids they should be focused on the things that most impact the game and how injuries have tripled for major league pitchers in the last 30 years.

News is news. Sometimes it creates negative feelings. Sometimes it creates controversy. But that’s not our job if you’re a news writer. Our job is to uncover and write about news.

We tell news. The public does what it wants with the news. If you don’t get that, you don’t understand the media. And anyone in the media who doesn’t get that doesn’t understand the media.

 

[outofplace]

Yes...I'll have the D_B with a side of bull****...

 

[BYH]

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=jp-marshall051007&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
Another great article by a yahoo sports writer. These guys are excellent and I enjoy reading them every day.
I don't see anyone else bringing to the table this sort of interesting stuff. This is exactly what writers should be focused on. Instead of creating negative controversy with steroids they should be focused on the things that most impact the game and how injuries have tripled for major league pitchers in the last 30 years.

News is news. Sometimes it creates negative feelings. Sometimes it creates controversy. But that’s not our job if you’re a news writer. Our job is to uncover and write about news.

We tell news. The public does what it wants with the news. If you don’t get that, you don’t understand the media. And anyone in the media who doesn’t get that doesn’t understand the media.

You do realize you're wasting your logic on Idiots Network, right?

Him coming here to post is like us going to stupidinbredfanboyidiotlooosers.com to complain about stupid inbred fanboy loosers.

 

[zeke12]

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=jp-marshall051007&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
Another great article by a yahoo sports writer. These guys are excellent and I enjoy reading them every day.
I don't see anyone else bringing to the table this sort of interesting stuff. This is exactly what writers should be focused on. Instead of creating negative controversy with steroids they should be focused on the things that most impact the game and how injuries have tripled for major league pitchers in the last 30 years.

News is news. Sometimes it creates negative feelings. Sometimes it creates controversy. But that’s not our job if you’re a news writer. Our job is to uncover and write about news.

We tell news. The public does what it wants with the news. If you don’t get that, you don’t understand the media. And anyone in the media who doesn’t get that doesn’t understand the media.

You do realize you're wasting your logic on Idiots Network, right?

Him coming here to post is like us going to stupidinbredfanboyidiotlooosers.com to complain about stupid inbred fanboy loosers.

My username on that site is boots, if you all want to stop by...

 

[Hammer Pants]

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=jp-marshall051007&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
Another great article by a yahoo sports writer. These guys are excellent and I enjoy reading them every day.
I don't see anyone else bringing to the table this sort of interesting stuff. This is exactly what writers should be focused on. Instead of creating negative controversy with steroids they should be focused on the things that most impact the game and how injuries have tripled for major league pitchers in the last 30 years.

News is news. Sometimes it creates negative feelings. Sometimes it creates controversy. But that?s not our job if you?re a news writer. Our job is to uncover and write about news.

We tell news. The public does what it wants with the news. If you don?t get that, you don?t understand the media. And anyone in the media who doesn?t get that doesn?t understand the media.

You do realize you're wasting your logic on Idiots Network, right?

Him coming here to post is like us going to stupidinbredfanboyidiotlooosers.com to complain about stupid inbred fanboy loosers.

You're right ... it's just always been hard for me to understand why a vast majority of people don't understand what our jobs are. It's not that complicated. Really ... it's not.

 

[PhilaYank36]

Where is the original thread link to this? I read that and immediately wished I was seven years and four surgeries (two shoulder) younger. I was one of the great many who's desire, passion & intelligence were far greater than my talent. I would have given a lot of money to try this program and see what happened. Hell, for a moment, I seriously thought about seeking him out when I go to Orlando in July. Then the sharp pain in my shoulder reminded me that it's too late and I don't have the time & money to invest.

Anyway, I really hope Marshall gets a hold of some high schooler, teaches these mechanics and the kid becomes a success. All four of my surgeries sucked, especially the two in the shoulder. If these mechanics actually do what Marshall claims they do, I'm all for them.

 

[Claws for Concern]

Where is the original thread link to this? I read that and immediately wished I was seven years and four surgeries (two shoulder) younger. I was one of the great many who's desire, passion & intelligence were far greater than my talent. I would have given a lot of money to try this program and see what happened. Hell, for a moment, I seriously thought about seeking him out when I go to Orlando in July. Then the sharp pain in my shoulder reminded me that it's too late and I don't have the time & money to invest.

Anyway, I really hope Marshall gets a hold of some high schooler, teaches these mechanics and the kid becomes a success. All four of my surgeries sucked, especially the two in the shoulder. If these mechanics actually do what Marshall claims they do, I'm all for them.

Technically, I posted it within a thread about Nolan Ryan's comments about Clemens, Bonds-Aaron, steroids, etc. when he spoke at an APSE regional conference. Somehow, someone mentioned the Mike Marshall article on the second page of the thread. That's when I posted the link.

Can anybody that read it sum up what Marshall was suggesting?

read it for yourself:

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=jp-marshall051007&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

 

[indiansnetwork]

Where is the original thread link to this? I read that and immediately wished I was seven years and four surgeries (two shoulder) younger. I was one of the great many who's desire, passion & intelligence were far greater than my talent. I would have given a lot of money to try this program and see what happened. Hell, for a moment, I seriously thought about seeking him out when I go to Orlando in July. Then the sharp pain in my shoulder reminded me that it's too late and I don't have the time & money to invest.

Anyway, I really hope Marshall gets a hold of some high schooler, teaches these mechanics and the kid becomes a success. All four of my surgeries sucked, especially the two in the shoulder. If these mechanics actually do what Marshall claims they do, I'm all for them.

Sorry that you had shoulder issues that might have cost you some chances at higher levels. I thought it was a great article and it had me seriously think about how I throw and how it impacts my health. I am sorry if this was D.B but I searched Marshall before I posted and all I came up with is the College not DR. Mike Marshall. I just would also like to point out that I was supporting journalists here and still some how got slammed for it.

 

[Hammer Pants]

Where is the original thread link to this? I read that and immediately wished I was seven years and four surgeries (two shoulder) younger. I was one of the great many who's desire, passion & intelligence were far greater than my talent. I would have given a lot of money to try this program and see what happened. Hell, for a moment, I seriously thought about seeking him out when I go to Orlando in July. Then the sharp pain in my shoulder reminded me that it's too late and I don't have the time & money to invest.

Anyway, I really hope Marshall gets a hold of some high schooler, teaches these mechanics and the kid becomes a success. All four of my surgeries sucked, especially the two in the shoulder. If these mechanics actually do what Marshall claims they do, I'm all for them.

Sorry that you had shoulder issues that might have cost you some chances at higher levels. I thought it was a great article and it had me seriously think about how I throw and how it impacts my health. I am sorry if this was D.B but I searched Marshall before I posted and all I came up with is the College not DR. Mike Marshall. I just would also like to point out that I was supporting journalists here and still some how got slammed for it.

Because you implied that the majority don't get it.

 

[MertWindu]

First time I've seen this, so I'll go against the grain and thank you, network, for bringing it up.

However.

Isn't arm injuries in the major leagues a negative thing? Particularly if they've tripled? So please take the bull**** about sportswriters focusing on the negative and go sell it somewhere else. You could have linked this, made your point about finding it interesting, and then moved on. But you had to get in your swipe about journalists and what they "need to" focus on, as if you have clue ****ing one about what writers should be working on right now. So please don't act like the victim, it's so tired. You didn't support journalists. You supported one, because it helped you make the point that the REST of us are so clearly misguided.

 

[BYH]

Where is the original thread link to this? I read that and immediately wished I was seven years and four surgeries (two shoulder) younger. I was one of the great many who's desire, passion & intelligence were far greater than my talent. I would have given a lot of money to try this program and see what happened. Hell, for a moment, I seriously thought about seeking him out when I go to Orlando in July. Then the sharp pain in my shoulder reminded me that it's too late and I don't have the time & money to invest.

Anyway, I really hope Marshall gets a hold of some high schooler, teaches these mechanics and the kid becomes a success. All four of my surgeries sucked, especially the two in the shoulder. If these mechanics actually do what Marshall claims they do, I'm all for them.

Sorry that you had shoulder issues that might have cost you some chances at higher levels. I thought it was a great article and it had me seriously think about how I throw and how it impacts my health. I am sorry if this was D.B but I searched Marshall before I posted and all I came up with is the College not DR. Mike Marshall. I just would also like to point out that I was supporting journalists here and still some how got slammed for it.

You are a ****ing idiot.

 

[MertWindu]

By the way, Passan's damn good, but I wonder if he hasn't been taken on this one. That first shot of the "Maxline Fastball," from behind Headcase Sparks? Oooooh, SOOOOO doctored. Watch the ball. Utter ****e.

 

[PhilaYank36]

I think that might be part of the problem for Marshall getting his ideas off the ground: look at who is doing this. A washed-up head case, has-beens, never-was' and young kids. The point: all have minimal ability AND credibility. I think it would take a Prior, a Wood, a Harden or some young kid with both serious talent and a little bit of an injury history to thrust these ideas from the sideshow to center stage (and not with Michael Kay). Until then, whenever Marshall tries to show off his pupils, critics can/will all to easily say that so-and-so still is nothing.

 

[Claws for Concern]

I wonder if Wood and/or Prior have friends who have forwarded them the article. It sure wouldn't hurt guys like this to at least look into it instead of just dismissing it altogether.

 

[indiansnetwork]

I think that might be part of the problem for Marshall getting his ideas off the ground: look at who is doing this. A washed-up head case, has-beens, never-was' and young kids. The point: all have minimal ability AND credibility. I think it would take a Prior, a Wood, a Harden or some young kid with both serious talent and a little bit of an injury history to thrust these ideas from the sideshow to center stage (and not with Michael Kay). Until then, whenever Marshall tries to show off his pupils, critics can/will all to easily say that so-and-so still is nothing.

That is a ashame that he dose not have quality people to work with here but this article just might go a long way towards helping with that. I certainly think that this should be looked at if not accepted. As a regular citizen and reader, I feel that I have every right to ask for more articles on these topics. You might not like what I have to say but you should at least respect how I feel. I am sure that I am not alone in feeling this way about sport journalism in general. It wasn't meant to be a crack against journalists, I was just pointing out what a great article it was and that I wouldn't mind seeing more articles on these subjects. I am pretty sure most people are burnt out on the steroid issue. Most of the time conversations or articles on steroids don't create much of national stir anymore because, one most people already accept that most baseball players have used some PED at some point in their career and two, no one has 100% proof that anyone did anything so it is kind of a dead issue until that proof is found or Bud Selig admits he was at least partly to blame.

 

[MertWindu]

I think that might be part of the problem for Marshall getting his ideas off the ground: look at who is doing this. A washed-up head case, has-beens, never-was' and young kids. The point: all have minimal ability AND credibility. I think it would take a Prior, a Wood, a Harden or some young kid with both serious talent and a little bit of an injury history to thrust these ideas from the sideshow to center stage (and not with Michael Kay). Until then, whenever Marshall tries to show off his pupils, critics can/will all to easily say that so-and-so still is nothing.

That is a ashame that he dose not have quality people to work with here but this article just might go a long way towards helping with that. I certainly think that this should be looked at if not accepted. As a regular citizen and reader, I feel that I have every right to ask for more articles on these topics. You might not like what I have to say but you should at least respect how I feel. I am sure that I am not alone in feeling this way about sport journalism in general. It wasn't meant to be a crack against journalists, I was just pointing out what a great article it was and that I wouldn't mind seeing more articles on these subjects. I am pretty sure most people are burnt out on the steroid issue. Most of the time conversations or articles on steroids don't create much of national stir anymore because, one most people already accept that most baseball players have used some PED at some point in their career and two, no one has 100% proof that anyone did anything so it is kind of a dead issue until that proof is found or Bud Selig admits he was at least partly to blame.

And if the press doesn't pressure Selig to do something about it, nothing happens. This stuff doesn't happen in a vacuum, the press has to play the role of public voice. Please stop telling us that we need to spend more time hunting down quacks and one-offs who think they have the answer to a completely natural problem, in this case that problem being that WHEN YOU THROW A BASEBALL 90 MILES AN HOUR, YOU WILL BOTH HARM AND STRENGTHEN YOUR MUSCLES, BECAUSE THAT'S HOW PHYSIOLOGY WORKS.

 

[outofplace]

I think that might be part of the problem for Marshall getting his ideas off the ground: look at who is doing this. A washed-up head case, has-beens, never-was' and young kids. The point: all have minimal ability AND credibility. I think it would take a Prior, a Wood, a Harden or some young kid with both serious talent and a little bit of an injury history to thrust these ideas from the sideshow to center stage (and not with Michael Kay). Until then, whenever Marshall tries to show off his pupils, critics can/will all to easily say that so-and-so still is nothing.

That is a ashame that he dose not have quality people to work with here but this article just might go a long way towards helping with that. I certainly think that this should be looked at if not accepted. As a regular citizen and reader, I feel that I have every right to ask for more articles on these topics. You might not like what I have to say but you should at least respect how I feel. I am sure that I am not alone in feeling this way about sport journalism in general. It wasn't meant to be a crack against journalists, I was just pointing out what a great article it was and that I wouldn't mind seeing more articles on these subjects. I am pretty sure most people are burnt out on the steroid issue. Most of the time conversations or articles on steroids don't create much of national stir anymore because, one most people already accept that most baseball players have used some PED at some point in their career and two, no one has 100% proof that anyone did anything so it is kind of a dead issue until that proof is found or Bud Selig admits he was at least partly to blame.

Given your history on this board, I don't see how you can expect any of us to take your comment as anything but a shot at sports journalists in general. And given the lack of respect you have shown sports journalists in general through your posts, no, I don't think we have to respect you at all. Respect is earned, in part by giving it if you wish to get it. And you have not done that.