Just another campus rape??

[cranberry]

I guess the campus rape problem has been so overstated and over-publicised that we hardly pay attention to the stories anymore.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/29/us/vanderbilt-rape-trial-didnt-stir-students-on-campus.html?_r=0

The crime was horrific and the verdict stunningly swift. Two former Vanderbilt University football players are facing the possibility of decades in prison after it took a jury less than four hours to convict them for their roles in a 2013 sexual assault of an unconscious woman. Two more former football players await trial.

At a time of widespread alarm and almost daily news reports about sexual assaults on college campuses, it is hard to imagine a case more likely than this one, captured on video by the assailants, to mobilize a campus. As if to underscore how pervasive the concerns have become nationally, representatives from 76 Tennessee colleges and universities were holding a conference on the subject here, not far from the courthouse where Tuesday’s verdict played out.

Somehow we missed this one yesterday, too:

Stanford students not shocked by campus rape report - SFGate

Freshman and star swimmer Brock Turner, 19, who has withdrawn from Stanford and has been banned from campus, was charged this week with five felonies, including two counts of rape, after allegedly meeting a woman at a campus gathering and sexually assaulting her.

The victim, who was not a student, was intoxicated and unconscious at the time, according to the Santa Clara County district attorney’s office. Two students passing by on bicycles stopped the attack and physically restrained Turner until police arrived, even as he tried to get away, prosecutors said.

 

[zagoshe]

Or maybe we don't give a **** outside of that region because it is a swimmer and not an athlete anyone outside of his parents have ever heard of

 

[LongTimeListener]

That Vandy one was a doozy. Noteworthy because one of the players convicted did not touch the woman but rather recorded/watched and didn't intervene. Courts didn't buy that excuse.

There's a lot more rolling downhill in that case, including two more rape trials and a university investigation that could (should) fall squarely on James Franklin. Some alleged witness intimidation/obfuscation and bonus testimony about failed drug tests being ignored.

 

[Dick Whitman]

That Vandy one was a doozy. Noteworthy because one of the players convicted did not touch the woman but rather recorded/watched and didn't intervene. Courts didn't buy that excuse.

That's what Drew did, too, if I recall.

 

[LongTimeListener]

That's a really bad analogy, seeing as how this Vandy trial played out in court and included testimony from the perpetrator himself, but OK if that's the drum you want to beat.

 

[Dick Whitman]

I'm just making fun of Rolling Stone.

 

[LongTimeListener]

All right, fair enough. That's always good sport.

Also I should amend, I'm not positive whether Vandenburg (the guy who egged everyone on and sent out videos) testified. I thought he did, but I can't find any writeup of that now. Nevertheless, his attorneys acknowledged his role but tried to argue that it didn't amount to rape. Of course, the attorneys also argued that the blame lies not with the sterling young men who did this but with the campus culture itself.

They shoulda been in Texas, where affluenza is a recognized ailment.

 

[cranberry]

Where's PW2? He usually has a lot to say about this topic.

 

[User 11148]

Where's PW2? He usually has a lot to say about this topic.

Rolling Stone's doing a profile on him ... should be on the stands in a couple of months.

 

[BitterYoungMatador2]

There's a lot more rolling downhill in that case, including two more rape trials and a university investigation that could (should) fall squarely on James Franklin. Some alleged witness intimidation/obfuscation and bonus testimony about failed drug tests being ignored.

"YOU WANNA' TALK ABOUT (RAPE) CULTURE!???"

 

[EddieM]

I guess the campus rape problem has been so overstated and over-publicised that we hardly pay attention to the stories anymore.

Even forgiving your insensitivity, that is a statistically ludicrous statement. We have hardly caught up to the problem, and bad reporting from Rolling Stone doesn't mean a culture problem doesn't exist.

 

[cranberry]

I'll try to keep that in mind, EddieM.

 

[da man]

All right, fair enough. That's always good sport.

Also I should amend, I'm not positive whether Vandenburg (the guy who egged everyone on and sent out videos) testified. I thought he did, but I can't find any writeup of that now. Nevertheless, his attorneys acknowledged his role but tried to argue that it didn't amount to rape. Of course, the attorneys also argued that the blame lies not with the sterling young men who did this but with the campus culture itself.

They shoulda been in Texas, where affluenza is a recognized ailment.

Was Otter his defense counsel?



We're not going to sit here and listen to you badmouth the United States of America!

 

[YankeeFan]

I guess the campus rape problem has been so overstated and over-publicised that we hardly pay attention to the stories anymore.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/29/us/vanderbilt-rape-trial-didnt-stir-students-on-campus.html?_r=0

Great new slogan for the Vandy football team:

 

[Ace]

Great new slogan for the Vandy football team:

New Vandy slogan:

Unconscious? We're on it

 

[TheSportsPredictor]

Ex-Vandy player gets 17-year prison sentence