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heyabbott said:
Fenian_Bastard said:
heyabbott said:
Is there no perspective in the black community, is there no self respect?

Jena 6, Michael Vick, OJ Simpson and Duke Lacrosse are the civil rights rally cry for the current African American Community. Meanwhile another generation of black kids are falling behind in school, black on black crime is horrendous, the nuclear black family is the overwhelming exception to the rule and unemployment and drug abuse rate higher for blacks than any other group except Native Americans living in reservations. But The Reverends Fat Pimp and Booty-Call and their radio talkshow ptichmen are stoking the flames of the ignorant with Jena and Vick.

Are you folks ****ing serious?


Because, as we all know, black folks are incapable of recognizing their own problems and their own real tragedies and must be led to them, not by leaders of their own choosing, but by bigots who have only their best interests at heart.
Thank You. You now understand.
Lock this damn thread now, as we have all reached full consciousness.

Pick up your hood on the way out the door.
 
Fenian_Bastard said:
heyabbott said:
Fenian_Bastard said:
heyabbott said:
Is there no perspective in the black community, is there no self respect?

Jena 6, Michael Vick, OJ Simpson and Duke Lacrosse are the civil rights rally cry for the current African American Community. Meanwhile another generation of black kids are falling behind in school, black on black crime is horrendous, the nuclear black family is the overwhelming exception to the rule and unemployment and drug abuse rate higher for blacks than any other group except Native Americans living in reservations. But The Reverends Fat Pimp and Booty-Call and their radio talkshow ptichmen are stoking the flames of the ignorant with Jena and Vick.

Are you folks ****ing serious?


Because, as we all know, black folks are incapable of recognizing their own problems and their own real tragedies and must be led to them, not by leaders of their own choosing, but by bigots who have only their best interests at heart.
Thank You. You now understand.
Lock this damn thread now, as we have all reached full consciousness.

Pick up your hood on the way out the door.
Lost it at the Crown Heights Riots, maybe one of your friends picked it up as a souvenir?
 
The Crown Heights Riots.
A pivotal moment in our nation's history.
 
Pancamo said:
Fenian_Bastard said:
The Crown Heights Riots.
A pivotal moment in our nation's history.

Is Jena pivotal?

Let's see. 10,000 or so folks in the street, marching for equal justice under the law, in what is pretty plainly a racist area?
Maybe.
 
Fenian_Bastard said:
The Crown Heights Riots.
A pivotal moment in our nation's history.
America's Krystalnacht, led by the Al Sharpton, leader of the Jena 6 Civil Rights movement.

Based on Sharpton's involvement, why should rational people put any credence into the Jena 6's claim. Between Tawana Brawley, Crown Heights, Freddie Fashion Mart, his illegal use of campaign funds and Duke Lacrosse, Sharpton and anything that he attaches his name to is ****.
 
heyabbott said:
Fenian_Bastard said:
The Crown Heights Riots.
A pivotal moment in our nation's history.
America's Krystalnacht, led by the Al Sharpton, leader of the Jena 6 Civil Rights movement.

Based on Sharpton's involvement, why should rational people put any credence into the Jena 6's claim. Between Tawana Brawley, Crown Heights, Freddie Fashion Mart, his illegal use of campaign funds and Duke Lacrosse, Sharpton and anything that he attaches his name to is ****.

Did you just compare black rioters to the Nazis?
 
The Good Doctor said:
heyabbott said:
Fenian_Bastard said:
The Crown Heights Riots.
A pivotal moment in our nation's history.
America's Krystalnacht, led by the Al Sharpton, leader of the Jena 6 Civil Rights movement.

Based on Sharpton's involvement, why should rational people put any credence into the Jena 6's claim. Between Tawana Brawley, Crown Heights, Freddie Fashion Mart, his illegal use of campaign funds and Duke Lacrosse, Sharpton and anything that he attaches his name to is ****.

Did you just compare black rioters to the Nazis?

Yep, I believe he did.

And that's the problem with people like Abbott. Any time someone associated with civil rights gets involved with something, they think, well "those people can't possibly be right." So instead of actually looking at the facts, they just align themselves with the other side.
 
The Good Doctor said:
heyabbott said:
Fenian_Bastard said:
The Crown Heights Riots.
A pivotal moment in our nation's history.
America's Krystalnacht, led by the Al Sharpton, leader of the Jena 6 Civil Rights movement.

Based on Sharpton's involvement, why should rational people put any credence into the Jena 6's claim. Between Tawana Brawley, Crown Heights, Freddie Fashion Mart, his illegal use of campaign funds and Duke Lacrosse, Sharpton and anything that he attaches his name to is ****.

Did you just compare black rioters to the Nazis?
An analogy is different than a direct comparison.
Looting Jewish stores, beating Jews in the street and tacitly approved of the by the existing civil government(David Dinkins)
 
heyabbott said:
The Good Doctor said:
heyabbott said:
Fenian_Bastard said:
The Crown Heights Riots.
A pivotal moment in our nation's history.
America's Krystalnacht, led by the Al Sharpton, leader of the Jena 6 Civil Rights movement.

Based on Sharpton's involvement, why should rational people put any credence into the Jena 6's claim. Between Tawana Brawley, Crown Heights, Freddie Fashion Mart, his illegal use of campaign funds and Duke Lacrosse, Sharpton and anything that he attaches his name to is ****.

Did you just compare black rioters to the Nazis?
An analogy is different than a direct comparison.
Looting Jewish stores, beating Jews in the street and tacitly approved of the by the existing civil government(David Dinkins)

For the youngsters hereabouts, 'yab, why don't you tell them what set off the riot?
 
heyabbott said:
The Good Doctor said:
heyabbott said:
Fenian_Bastard said:
The Crown Heights Riots.
A pivotal moment in our nation's history.
America's Krystalnacht, led by the Al Sharpton, leader of the Jena 6 Civil Rights movement.

Based on Sharpton's involvement, why should rational people put any credence into the Jena 6's claim. Between Tawana Brawley, Crown Heights, Freddie Fashion Mart, his illegal use of campaign funds and Duke Lacrosse, Sharpton and anything that he attaches his name to is ****.

Did you just compare black rioters to the Nazis?
An analogy is different than a direct comparison.
Looting Jewish stores, beating Jews in the street and tacitly approved of the by the existing civil government(David Dinkins)

David Dinkins "tacitly approved" the looting? Absurd.
The Nazis "tacitly" approved" Kristallnacht? Worse than absurd.
You're a ****ing loon, is what you are.
 
Fenian_Bastard said:
heyabbott said:
The Good Doctor said:
heyabbott said:
Fenian_Bastard said:
The Crown Heights Riots.
A pivotal moment in our nation's history.
America's Krystalnacht, led by the Al Sharpton, leader of the Jena 6 Civil Rights movement.

Based on Sharpton's involvement, why should rational people put any credence into the Jena 6's claim. Between Tawana Brawley, Crown Heights, Freddie Fashion Mart, his illegal use of campaign funds and Duke Lacrosse, Sharpton and anything that he attaches his name to is ****.

Did you just compare black rioters to the Nazis?
An analogy is different than a direct comparison.
Looting Jewish stores, beating Jews in the street and tacitly approved of the by the existing civil government(David Dinkins)

David Dinkins "tacitly approved" the looting? Absurd.
The Nazis "tacitly" approved" Kristallnacht? Worse than absurd.
You're a ****ing loon, is what you are.
Dinkins did **** to prevent it and did even less to help in the aftermath. Just deal with the fact that your current crop of civil rights leaders are anti-semitic, xenophobic, homophobic, babymaking assholes.
 
If anything, this opened America's eyes that all men are not treated equally in the eyes of justice.
 
Beaker said:
The Good Doctor said:
heyabbott said:
Fenian_Bastard said:
The Crown Heights Riots.
A pivotal moment in our nation's history.
America's Krystalnacht, led by the Al Sharpton, leader of the Jena 6 Civil Rights movement.

Based on Sharpton's involvement, why should rational people put any credence into the Jena 6's claim. Between Tawana Brawley, Crown Heights, Freddie Fashion Mart, his illegal use of campaign funds and Duke Lacrosse, Sharpton and anything that he attaches his name to is ****.

Did you just compare black rioters to the Nazis?

Yep, I believe he did.

And that's the problem with people like Abbott. Any time someone associated with civil rights gets involved with something, they think, well "those people can't possibly be right." So instead of actually looking at the facts, they just align themselves with the other side.

You're right about that problem re: people immediately dismissing things just because Sharpton or Jackson get behind something without looking at the facts. That seems to cut both ways though, as those two in particular seem to align with one side without looking at the facts.

I think John Carlos' (he of the raced fist at the '68 Olympics) analogy of today's civil rights leaders is pretty spot on:

Carlos feels a sense of frustration with "ministers" and "so-called leaders of the black community," as he puts it, who show up for the big protests in places like Jena, but aren't there when the cameras are off. "These leaders today," he said, "they remind me of tow truck drivers. A tow truck driver is the first one to show up on the scene when there is an accident sometimes. It's true they have [radios] and sometimes show up at the scene before even the police. But can they actually fix the cars? Do they have grease under the fingernails? Will they be there to help the families once the car is towed away?"

Full story: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writers/dave_zirin/09/27/carlos/index.html
 
boots said:
If anything, this opened America's eyes that all men are not treated equally in the eyes of justice.

Crown Heights? Really? Or did you mean Jena?

And you mean as opposed to the Civil War, or the Emancipation Proclamation, or the Reconstruction, or Jim Crow, or the Scottsboro Boys, or lynchings, or segregation, or Jackie Robinson, or Dr. Martin Luther King, or Malcolm X, or Medgar Evers, or Baldwin or Ellison or Hurston, or the Civil Rights Act, or forced busing, or the March on Washington, or the Black Panthers, or the Watts riots? Jena somehow exceeds all those? And a thousand times a thousand other events and personalities that preceded it?
 
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