Jefferies JFK film

[Simon_Cowbell]

This JFK film was released a couple weeks ago.



One thing that is evident is that Clint Hill was riding on the bumper of president's car 90 seconds before the shooting.

I wonder why he got off.

I'm no Ollie Stone conspiracy nut, but that strikes me as odd.

 

[Fenian_Bastard]

Probably because the car was going to make that tight turn from Houston onto Elm and he thought he might fall off.

 

[markvid]

This JFK film was released a couple weeks ago.



One thing that is evident is that Clint Hill was riding on the bumper of president's car 90 seconds before the shooting.

I wonder why he got off.

I'm no Ollie Stone conspiracy nut, but that strikes me as odd.

It was in a crowded area. It has been documented that when many people around, Clint got on. There were less, Clint got off. They were in a relatively sparse area when the shooting took place.

 

[Point of Order]

http://imdb.com/title/tt0387490/

http://www.abcnewsstore.com/store/index.cfm?fuseaction=customer.product&product_code=S031120%2001&category_code=HOME


In 2003, Peter Jennings blew to shreds the most popular JFK conspiracy theories. My theory is that a lot of people have gotten rich concocting bogus conspiracy theories

 

[Fenian_Bastard]

Still no plausible motive for Oswald, though.

 

[novelist_wannabe]

Did Jennings explain the magic bullet and how Oswald supposedly got three shots off in the short time span this all occurred?

 

[Ellis Redding]

Didn't a second congressional inquiry in the mid- to late-'70s conclude a conspiracy was likely?

 

[old_tony]

Did Jennings explain the magic bullet and how Oswald supposedly got three shots off in the short time span this all occurred?

I saw a show on A&E or History Channel or Discovery (can't remember which) that recreated the magic bullet. They used gelatin- and bone-based based human dummies and as closely as possible recreated the exact positions. With a sharp shooter they got a bullet to do pretty much exactly the same things the so-called "magic bullet" did. Shown on super-slow motion it definitely showed that one bullet could have done all the things the "magic bullet" did.

 

[Fenian_Bastard]

And emerge pristinely from both bodies?

 

[markvid]

If it never hit any bones, yes it would be in good shape.
And people forget Oswald was not a pellet gun shooter.
He was in top end of the Marines at the time.

 

[Point of Order]

Did Jennings explain the magic bullet and how Oswald supposedly got three shots off in the short time span this all occurred?

Yes, explained it quite well. I own the documentary and recommend it to anyone who is interested in the Kennedy assassination. It will blow 95% of the misconceptions/conspiracy theories out of the water. As the write-up on the DVD says, "The truth is knowable."

 

[Ellis Redding]

I'll ask again -- Didn't a second congressional inquiry in the mid- to late-'70s conclude a conspiracy was likely?

 

[Point of Order]

I'll ask again -- Didn't a second congressional inquiry in the mid- to late-'70s conclude a conspiracy was likely?

Not to my knowledge. There were to official investigations - one right at the time of the assassination and then the Warren Commission - that both concluded Oswald was the lone assassin. Folks didn't believe it.

 

[markvid]

http://www.jfklancer.com/HSCA.html

"Probable" conspiracy.
However, they have no idea who.

 

[finishthehat]

Still no plausible motive for Oswald, though.

Did Charles J. Guiteau have one? Yeah, he thought he should be ambassador to France, but essentially the guy was nuts. So, in a less flamboyant way, was Lee.

 

[Point of Order]

Here's the graf inside the link that justifies the "probable" conspiracy:

4) There was a high probability that a second gunman, in fact, fired at the President. At the same time, the committee candidly stated, in expressing its finding of conspiracy in the Kennedy assassination, that it was "unable to identify the other gunman or the extent of the conspiracy."

When was this? Which congressmen wrote the report?

 

[SixToe]

An experienced sniper could do what Oswald did.

The bullet could penetrate two bodies if no bones were hit in the first victim that would cause the bullet to mushroom.

 

[old_tony]

And emerge pristinely from both bodies?

I wish I remember what the name of the program was, but the super-slow motion replay showed the bullet doing pretty much everything the magic bullet did, including pitching and entering Connelly's back slightly sideways to cause a similar wound. And yes, the bullet came out barely damaged.

 

[novelist_wannabe]

If it never hit any bones, yes it would be in good shape.
And people forget Oswald was not a pellet gun shooter.
He was in top end of the Marines at the time.

If the bullet never hit bones, though, it wasn't going to change directions ...
As for Oswald, yes, he was an expert marksman by almost any account you can find, but three dead-on shots in the span of, what, 5.6 seconds, from a bolt-action rifle firing at a moving target? Sorry, I'm not convinced. It's hard enough to do that with an automatic rifle. If he had to chamber and fire the last two shots, that ain't human.

 

[Trouser_Buddah]

I'll ask again -- Didn't a second congressional inquiry in the mid- to late-'70s conclude a conspiracy was likely?

Not to my knowledge. There were to official investigations - one right at the time of the assassination and then the Warren Commission - that both concluded Oswald was the lone assassin. Folks didn't believe it.

The investigation at the time of the assassination was the Warren Commission. In 1976 the United States House of Representatives Select Committee on Assassinations was formed to investigage Kennedy and MLK's assassinations.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_Select_Committee_on_Assassinations

"The Committee investigated until 1978, and in 1979 issued its final report, concluding that President John F. Kennedy was assassinated by Lee Harvey Oswald, probably as a result of a conspiracy."