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The 23 players on this year's Baseball Hall of Fame ballot. Who's in, and who manages to survive to next year's ballot?

• Harold Baines
• Jay Bell
• Bert Blyleven
• David Cone
• Andre Dawson
• Ron Gant
• Mark Grace
• Rickey Henderson
• Tommy John
• Don Mattingly
• Mark McGwire
• Jack Morris
• Dale Murphy
• Jesse Orosco
• Dave Parker
• Dan Plesac
• Tim Raines
• Jim Rice
• Lee Smith
• Alan Trammell
• Greg Vaughn
• Mo Vaughn
• Matt Williams
 
IN: Rickey (potentially the funniest acceptance speech ever); Jim Rice (finally, barely).


Won't get 5%: Greg Vaughn, Mo Vaughn, Dan Plesac, Ron Gant, Jay Bell.
 
Let's talk about Dale Murphy
2 time MVP, 4 time top 10
2 time HR champ, 7 times top 5
7 gold glove
7 time AllStar, 5 starts

one of the best players in the game for a ten year span from 78-87.
Not great average, but in the pre-steroid era, a feared power hitter who played on not great teams (1 post season appearance)

and, for the millionth time on SportsJournalists.com: Blyleven, John and Morris deserve to be in, or some players in the Hall need to be kicked out.

Were ( by way of illustration not necessarily by example) Bunning, Drysdale, Dizzy Dean better than Blyleven, John and Morris.
 
No to Murphy.

I never saw Dean pitch (despite what most of you think) but, yes, Bunning and Drysdale were better than Blyleven, John and Morris.
 
spnited said:
No to Murphy.

I never saw Dean pitch (despite what most of you think) but, yes, Bunning and Drysdale were better than Blyleven, John and Morris.

spot on.
 
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spnited said:
I never saw Dean pitch (despite what most of you think) but, yes, Bunning and Drysdale were better than Blyleven, John and Morris.
Are there HOF pitchers who were not as good as Blyleven, John or Morris?

My point wasn't to pick out Drysdale, Dean or Bunning, per se, but to suggest that those 3 modern era pitchers do belong.
 
Rickey Henderson will be the latest guy who should be unanimous, but won't because a few assholes insist on leaving off deserving candidates because they don't think anybody should be unanimous.
 
outofplace said:
Rickey Henderson will be the latest guy who should be unanimous, but won't because a few assholes insist on leaving off deserving candidates because they don't think anybody should be unanimous.
There should be a public list of the asshole, drunk, mentally disturbed sports writers who left Hank AAron, Jackie Robinson, Cal Ripken... off their ballot.
 
I'd vote Henderson, Raines, & Trammel. I may be coming around on Blyleven too.

If Rice goes, bring Murphy & Mattingly too.

If Schilling is ever going, bring Cone.

I'd leave out all 5.
 
Henderson will be the only one inducted. Rice, Blyleven, Murphy, Mattingly, Dawson in that order.
 
Rickey's probably the only one who gets in this time.

I've given up advocating for Raines, who might be the second-best leadoff hitter of all time, but had the misfortune of being almost an exact contemporary of the first. He was also a better player than Dawson, but will get nowhere near as much HoF support.
 
Guy_Incognito said:
I'd vote Henderson, Raines, & Trammel. I may be coming around on Blyleven too.

I'm undecided on Trammell, and I'm a Tiger fanboi looser.


If Blyleven gets in, so should Morris and vice versa.
 
heyabbott said:
outofplace said:
Rickey Henderson will be the latest guy who should be unanimous, but won't because a few assholes insist on leaving off deserving candidates because they don't think anybody should be unanimous.
There should be a public list of the asshole, drunk, mentally disturbed sports writers who left Hank AAron, Jackie Robinson, Cal Ripken... off their ballot.

I have to agree on that one. I really want to hear one Hall of Fame voter make a coherent argument for not inducting Rickey Henderson.
 
Rickey. Anybody else would be a surprise -- to me, at least, based on that list.

Lots of Hall of Very Good players on there, but only one sure-fire Hall of Famer.
 
joe said:
Rickey. Anybody else would be a surprise -- to me, at least, based on that list.

Lots of Hall of Very Good players on there, but only one sure-fire Hall of Famer.

Which is why somebody who belongs in the Hall of Very Good might sneak into the Hall of Fame this year.
 

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