Is the state of Florida's cfb dominance over?

[scribebaseball]

While I was growing up, it seemed that for at least about two decades that the holy trinity of Miami-Florida State-Florida ruled the college football world. They were the most glamorous programs - the ones that every high school kid in America wanted to play at - as well as the most talented, successful, etc. It seemed so self-sustaining during those years that I really never could envision it ending. Maybe people felt the same way about, say, Alabama in Bear's days.

But with FSU and the U both 6-6 this year and with the coaching jobs at both schools a mess, I think that era may be over for good. It just seems like balance of power has shifted from that state to the midwest with Michigan and Ohio State and of course USC.

 

[GB-Hack]

I don't think it's dead yet.

Florida floundered for a couple of seasons, but now appear to be strong again, and Meyer is going a good job of keeping the best recruits in-state. I think Miami will be able to do the same thing when they get a new coach installed, and FSU is going to be a lot better next season with a new offensive coordinator and, hopefully, a lack of injuries which have hurt them a lot this year.

I think the difference from say 10-20 years ago is the reductions of the number of scholarships has meant if one or more os your studs goes down, you don't have them another one to replace them anymore.

 

[Chuck~Taylor]

I don't think it's dead yet.

Florida floundered for a couple of seasons, but now appear to be strong again, and Meyer is going a good job of keeping the best recruits in-state. I think Miami will be able to do the same thing when they get a new coach installed, and FSU is going to be a lot better next season with a new offensive coordinator and, hopefully, a lack of injuries which have hurt them a lot this year.

I think the difference from say 10-20 years ago is the reductions of the number of scholarships has meant if one or more os your studs goes down, you don't have them another one to replace them anymore.

What do you guys think FSU should do with their quarterback situation? Should they start X.Lee or Weatherford?

 

[Pancamo]

Jeff Bowden would screw up Montana, Marino and Unitas so it doesn't matter who starts.

 

[pallister]

I so hope the Hogs beat Florida in the SEC championship. The Gators are 1-loss frauds.

 

[hondo]

I so hope the Hogs beat Florida in the SEC championship. The Gators are 1-loss frauds.

I'm not sure anyone with an 11-1 record and victories over FSU, Georgia, LSU, Alabama, South Carolina and Tennessee could be considered a fraud.

 

[pallister]

FSU is terrible, Alabama is terrible, Georgia ain't so good and UF had no business beating a medicore South Carolina team at home. The Gators are not as good as their record.

 

[GB-Hack]

Getting back to Chuck's question, I would wait to see who the new OC is before deciding on who should start game one at QB next year.

The thing is, I don't think who's at QB is the issue for FSU right now. For me, it's the lack of a running game thanks to an offensive line that doesn't appear to be able to open holes. If the Noles can fix the front five, a lot of issues could be resolved quickly, because the defense is still pretty good.

 

[Columbo]

FSU is terrible, Alabama is terrible, Georgia ain't so good and UF had no business beating a medicore South Carolina team at home. The Gators are not as good as their record.

****ing delirious crybaby.

 

[hondo]

FSU is terrible, Alabama is terrible, Georgia ain't so good and UF had no business beating a medicore South Carolina team at home. The Gators are not as good as their record.

So should they stay home and hide their heads in shame?

They did win their division. Think they should show up in Atlanta next week to play Arkansas? Or just give up and concentrate on basketball season?

 

[hondo]

FSU is terrible, Alabama is terrible, Georgia ain't so good and UF had no business beating a medicore South Carolina team at home. The Gators are not as good as their record.

FSU and Alabama are 6-6 and don't play patsy schedules. That's not terrible. Mediocre, perhaps, but statistically, not terrible. FSU did beat Miami (yeah, you're going to give me a song and dance on the 'Canes being "terrible," but they're also 6-6, not "terrible.")
South Carolina had a winning season and beat Clemson on the road today. Georgia just closed out Georgia Tech, which will be in the ACC championship game next week.

Sounds like you might be bitter for some reason or another.

 

[GB-Hack]

While all three of the schools you names are having average seasons in relations to the names of the schools, it doesn't make them Georgia State, Alabama A&M and Florida International.

And just as I finish typing, Georgia bumps off G. Tech 15-12. Some bad losses for UGA this year, but wins against a ranked Tech and a blowout of Auburn do provide a silver lining. SEC seems to be getting the better of the rivalry games today.

 

[pallister]

Hondo,
A team that's 11-1 and wants to be included in national championship discussions needs a resume that includes more than one quality win (against LSU) and a bunch of skin-of-its-teeth victories. If the Gators beat Arkansas, they deserve their BCS bowl game. But don't tell me that beating Alabama, Georgia, South Carolina and FSU this year is anything special. It ain't.

As for being bitter, I couldn't care less about Florida other than the fact I have some time on my hands today and felt like posting about something other than ice cream and strike breaking.

And Columbo, do you just have a bunch of hats you pick words out of to make your posts. Hey, look, I picked '****ing' out of the swear hat, 'delirious' out of the adjective hat and 'crybaby' out of the noun hat. Hmmm, how do I put those together? Not a bad effort, but I think a better construction would have been "Crybaby, ****ing delirious." The way the WaPo would have done it.

 

[beefncheddar]

Dear ACC,

That's what we thought.

--The SEC

 

[Pancamo]

FSU is terrible, Alabama is terrible, Georgia ain't so good and UF had no business beating a medicore South Carolina team at home. The Gators are not as good as their record.

FSU and Alabama are 6-6 and don't play patsy schedules. That's not terrible. Mediocre, perhaps, but statistically, not terrible. FSU did beat Miami (yeah, you're going to give me a song and dance on the 'Canes being "terrible," but they're also 6-6, not "terrible.")
South Carolina had a winning season and beat Clemson on the road today. Georgia just closed out Georgia Tech, which will be in the ACC championship game next week.

Sounds like you might be bitter for some reason or another.

FSU beat Rice, Duke, Troy, Western Michigan, UM and Virginia. Not exactly USC, ND and Michigan.

 

[2muchcoffeeman]

FSU's problem can be summed up in two words: Jeff Bowden.

During his tenure as offensive coordinator, the Seminole offense was consistently unprepared physically and mentally. The game plans were pathetic and the front blocking schemes were a joke. The change at O.C. will go a long way towards restoring football equilibrium in Tallahassee.

As for Miami, ****abunchaDaU.

 

[Lucas Wiseman]

SOUTH FLORIDA *******!!!!

 

[Bruhman]

depends on your definition of dominance.

if you mean 18 of 23 seasons (1983–2005) with either Miami, FSU or UF finishing in the Top 3 ... or Miami being Top 3 in 11 of those 23 seasons ... or FSU being Top 4 in the coaches' poll for 14 consecutive seasons from 1987-2000 ... or UF being Top 7 nine of 11 times from 1991-2001, then, yes. i think that's over.

but if you mean near-annual Top 10 rankings for the Big 3, then, no. i don't think that's necessarily over.

with the state's built-in recruiting advantage - none but california and texas are comparable - the only thing that can screw it up is the wrong coach. (see: Zook; Coker; Bowden, Jeff).

 

[Bubba Fett]

FSU is terrible, Alabama is terrible, Georgia ain't so good and UF had no business beating a medicore South Carolina team at home. The Gators are not as good as their record.

FSU and Alabama are 6-6 and don't play patsy schedules. That's not terrible. Mediocre, perhaps, but statistically, not terrible. FSU did beat Miami (yeah, you're going to give me a song and dance on the 'Canes being "terrible," but they're also 6-6, not "terrible.")
South Carolina had a winning season and beat Clemson on the road today. Georgia just closed out Georgia Tech, which will be in the ACC championship game next week.

Sounds like you might be bitter for some reason or another.

FSU beat Rice, Duke, Troy, Western Michigan, UM and Virginia. Not exactly USC, ND and Michigan.

And Bama beat Hawaii (decent win), Duke (winless), Florida Int'l (winless), Louisiana-Monroe (2 wins), Ole Miss (4 wins) and Vanderbilt (4 wins).

 

[hondo]

Pallister can twist this any way he wants, but any season, from about 1950 to now, that includes a team beating Alabama, Tennessee, LSU, Georgia, South Carolina and Florida State, and has an 11-1 record, is pretty damn good. Maybe not good enough to earn a spot against Ohio State this year, but I don't think Florida fans need to put bags over their heads.