Hulk Hogan dead
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dixiehack
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No lie I read something this morning about Gawker being the first to expose Epstein's black book and thought "Hulk Hogan deserves a place on the running list of things that turned this country to ****."
Where are your vitamins now mother****er?
Where are your vitamins now mother****er?
PCLoadLetter
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I'd like to think that somewhere in the Great Beyond, the Iron Sheik is ****ing his ass and making him humble.
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"vitamins"
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OLD COUNTRY WAY
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Guess God needed a bigot.
Malcolm Jamal-Warner, Ozzy and Hulk Hogan is a hell of a trifecta of recent celebrity deaths.
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Two decent people and a POS?
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I had just read something online that rumors of Hogan in hiding were false and that he had been doing kareoke with his son at his bar over the weekend.
I’ll have more thoughts later on his career.
Anyways, since Phil Collins is still alive, does that mean Hogan gets 1A?
I’ll have more thoughts later on his career.
Anyways, since Phil Collins is still alive, does that mean Hogan gets 1A?
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I've been to hundreds of sporting events and concerts and the biggest reaction I can recall anyone getting was Hogan entering the arena during an WWF event at the Los Angeles Sports Arena circa 1983.
Dude was a POS, but we can't deny his influence on professional wrestling and pop culture.
Dude was a POS, but we can't deny his influence on professional wrestling and pop culture.
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Hogan: “Hulkamania will live forever!”
God: “That doesn’t work for me, Brother.”
God: “That doesn’t work for me, Brother.”
Who knows what wrestling would look like today if he hadn't come along (or if Vince had gone with Dusty Rhodes as his guy as the Netflix doc said).
Saw him in action many times at Maple Leaf Gardens (and I was at WM6) and few athletes or entertainers could work an arena like he could.
Saw him in action many times at Maple Leaf Gardens (and I was at WM6) and few athletes or entertainers could work an arena like he could.
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His match against Andre the Giant at 1987 WrestleMania created the modern WWF.
That is as close as I'm getting to a compliment.
Any reaction from Heather Clem, Bubba Clem or Jesse Ventura?
That is as close as I'm getting to a compliment.
Any reaction from Heather Clem, Bubba Clem or Jesse Ventura?
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How long will the Real American flag fly at half-mast?
2muchcoffeeman
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Mourn the character and remember the joy that character brought to your life, if that is what you choose. I mourned that character 30 years ago.
Mourning the man is also a choice. I’m choosing not to do so. I am mindful that he was never arrested for murder (Haynes, Snuka), and was not charged with sex trafficking (Vince), DUI (Jeff Hardy, Tammy Sytch), or assault. However, I’m also aware that Terry Bollea was a racist, a self-promoting liar, and a world-class asshole who actively worked to make the world worse.
Mourning the man is also a choice. I’m choosing not to do so. I am mindful that he was never arrested for murder (Haynes, Snuka), and was not charged with sex trafficking (Vince), DUI (Jeff Hardy, Tammy Sytch), or assault. However, I’m also aware that Terry Bollea was a racist, a self-promoting liar, and a world-class asshole who actively worked to make the world worse.
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OK, so I've had a little more time to think.
Jokes aside, I'm also sad. For all those who just lost some of their childhood, even though the innocence went away a long time ago.
I was already a pre-teen when I started watching wrestling in 1985. My classmates were excited about Hogan and Mr. T, and for a while, I couldn't find the WWF on TV. But I found World Class Championship Wrestling, with the Von Erich family (its own well-documented tragedy) on a UHF channel, and started getting into it.
Then I finally found out about WWF after staying over at a friend's house one weekend. And through all the squash matches, I became a huge wrestling fan. Hogan's in-ring appearances were rare, which annoyed me, but I still thought he was pretty cool. Paul Orndorff's heel turn on him blew this new teenager's mind away, even though I could see it coming (why didn't Hogan stop his damn workout to take the phone call?).
His WM3 match with Andre the Giant, is, of course, iconic. It's from an era couldn't be done today, considering they had worked together seven years earlier with the face/heel roles reversed. Everyone would just be complaining about rehashing an old storyline.
His feud with Randy Savage with Miss Elizabeth is some great storytelling looking at it from today's perspective. But around '88 or so, as a full-blown teen. I started getting tired of Hogan. Same old boot and leg drop. Hence, why I rooted for Ultimate Warrior at WM6, even though his promos were non-sensical (and he turned into a POS too).
Into the early 90s, he was beyond stale. He should have turned heel at the '92 Rumble. Instead he hung on, clogged up WM9 with his presence, and tried the same old act in WCW.
That is, until he turned heel and formed the NWO with Hall and Nash. Although he had experimented with wearing black as a babyface in '95, seeing him wearing black and being heel ish was quite a shock. Again, it's from an era that can't be duplicated as the Internet really was only just starting and very few storyline spoilers were out there. Pretty much the best heel turn of all time.
But, he got stale on screen again, refused to elevate new stars, and late 90s WCW was all messed up anyways. His return to WWE with the NWO was very well done, as the E emphasized the group more than just Hogan's return. He actually had quite an enjoyable run as a star who had lost a couple of steps and mostly was a supporting player instead of the top star. His match with The Rock at WM18, is also iconic as an early example of a crowd taking over the match. Bill Simmons had a good line when Rocky Balboa came out, comparing it to this Hogan run as an old guy trying to get one last opportunity to get out the stuff in the basement.
Unfortunately he hung on too long again, and the last 20 years or so of his life and career were quite messy. Outside the ring, he was awesome in Rocky III, had a fun cameo in Gremlins 2, did some other lame movies and TV projects, continually exaggerated/lied about his past, had an interesting reality show which ended up ruining his family (his daughter wasn't on speaking terms with her parents), and of course, had some infamous online moments that killed off a lot of his fanbase to the point where he got booed out of the arena at his very last wrestling appearance.
It's tough in so many ways. I know there was a guy named Terry Bolyea who was a human being with all the faults that a human has, who felt a lot of legitimate physical pain due to performing for decades in front of millions of people. Who played a character that will be remembered decades from now. It's tough knowing that for as many people who rightfully believe he was a piece of ****; yet, there are also many people, especially sick kids, whom there were many stories of how generous he was with his time with them. It's tough knowing that he doesn't deserve an RIP, but he doesn't deserve an RIH either. Or perhaps he deserves both.
Terry Bolyea, who played the character of Hulk Hogan, is dead.
Cross him off then, Brother.
Jokes aside, I'm also sad. For all those who just lost some of their childhood, even though the innocence went away a long time ago.
I was already a pre-teen when I started watching wrestling in 1985. My classmates were excited about Hogan and Mr. T, and for a while, I couldn't find the WWF on TV. But I found World Class Championship Wrestling, with the Von Erich family (its own well-documented tragedy) on a UHF channel, and started getting into it.
Then I finally found out about WWF after staying over at a friend's house one weekend. And through all the squash matches, I became a huge wrestling fan. Hogan's in-ring appearances were rare, which annoyed me, but I still thought he was pretty cool. Paul Orndorff's heel turn on him blew this new teenager's mind away, even though I could see it coming (why didn't Hogan stop his damn workout to take the phone call?).
His WM3 match with Andre the Giant, is, of course, iconic. It's from an era couldn't be done today, considering they had worked together seven years earlier with the face/heel roles reversed. Everyone would just be complaining about rehashing an old storyline.
His feud with Randy Savage with Miss Elizabeth is some great storytelling looking at it from today's perspective. But around '88 or so, as a full-blown teen. I started getting tired of Hogan. Same old boot and leg drop. Hence, why I rooted for Ultimate Warrior at WM6, even though his promos were non-sensical (and he turned into a POS too).
Into the early 90s, he was beyond stale. He should have turned heel at the '92 Rumble. Instead he hung on, clogged up WM9 with his presence, and tried the same old act in WCW.
That is, until he turned heel and formed the NWO with Hall and Nash. Although he had experimented with wearing black as a babyface in '95, seeing him wearing black and being heel ish was quite a shock. Again, it's from an era that can't be duplicated as the Internet really was only just starting and very few storyline spoilers were out there. Pretty much the best heel turn of all time.
But, he got stale on screen again, refused to elevate new stars, and late 90s WCW was all messed up anyways. His return to WWE with the NWO was very well done, as the E emphasized the group more than just Hogan's return. He actually had quite an enjoyable run as a star who had lost a couple of steps and mostly was a supporting player instead of the top star. His match with The Rock at WM18, is also iconic as an early example of a crowd taking over the match. Bill Simmons had a good line when Rocky Balboa came out, comparing it to this Hogan run as an old guy trying to get one last opportunity to get out the stuff in the basement.
Unfortunately he hung on too long again, and the last 20 years or so of his life and career were quite messy. Outside the ring, he was awesome in Rocky III, had a fun cameo in Gremlins 2, did some other lame movies and TV projects, continually exaggerated/lied about his past, had an interesting reality show which ended up ruining his family (his daughter wasn't on speaking terms with her parents), and of course, had some infamous online moments that killed off a lot of his fanbase to the point where he got booed out of the arena at his very last wrestling appearance.
It's tough in so many ways. I know there was a guy named Terry Bolyea who was a human being with all the faults that a human has, who felt a lot of legitimate physical pain due to performing for decades in front of millions of people. Who played a character that will be remembered decades from now. It's tough knowing that for as many people who rightfully believe he was a piece of ****; yet, there are also many people, especially sick kids, whom there were many stories of how generous he was with his time with them. It's tough knowing that he doesn't deserve an RIP, but he doesn't deserve an RIH either. Or perhaps he deserves both.
Terry Bolyea, who played the character of Hulk Hogan, is dead.
Cross him off then, Brother.
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The guy was far, far from perfect, but for better or worse, he's the guy who drew in as a fan of that crazy business that I still enjoy. Loved the cameo in "Rocky III" also.
We've touched upon a bit after Malcolm Jamal-Warner's death on referencing his TV dad, and like Cosby, I tend to separate the art and entertainment from the negative aspects of the person. And, as 2MCM has alluded to, there are people in his industry that have done much worse.
As I said, Hogan was the one who drew me in, although I went on to appreciate other wrestlers who did it better as far as the technical work and understanding it wasn't all about having their own hand raised all the time. However, for all his faults, I just don't think the business would be in the place it is now without his success in the 1980s.
EDIT: Baron, your post came in right before mine and you expressed our similar points very well.
We've touched upon a bit after Malcolm Jamal-Warner's death on referencing his TV dad, and like Cosby, I tend to separate the art and entertainment from the negative aspects of the person. And, as 2MCM has alluded to, there are people in his industry that have done much worse.
As I said, Hogan was the one who drew me in, although I went on to appreciate other wrestlers who did it better as far as the technical work and understanding it wasn't all about having their own hand raised all the time. However, for all his faults, I just don't think the business would be in the place it is now without his success in the 1980s.
EDIT: Baron, your post came in right before mine and you expressed our similar points very well.
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