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You've bounced this issue - and this candidate - but I haven't heard this and now, you will - and boy, does he really seem like the intimidating monster you draw these people to be.... ::)

http://www.youtube.com:80/watch?v=n-BFEhkIujA
 
Bull****, by the way.
He wants to pretend he's the fundamentalist who wears shoes and loves the Stones, so be it. But the fact is he was asked the question before he took off in the polls and said that, no, he didn't. What will be your attitude toward science, governor, after seven years of tailored reports and truckling to the crazy-ass likes of you and your co-sectarians?
 
Fenian_Bastard said:
He wants to pretend he's the fundamentalist who wears shoes

I spy with my little eye tolerance. Wait, what's that word that's the total opposite of tolerance?
 
Fenian_Bastard said:
Bull****, by the way.
He wants to pretend he's the fundamentalist who wears shoes and loves the Stones, so be it. But the fact is he was asked the question before he took off in the polls and said that, no, he didn't. What will be your attitude toward science, governor, after seven years of tailored reports and truckling to the crazy-ass likes of you and your co-sectarians?

Wow. Sorry to have pulled your string.

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This from Chuck Norris' wife:

"He is so genuine."

Cite me one consistency of such a characteristic with Che Clinton.
 
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Who the **** cares what Mike ****ing Huck-a-****ing-bee thinks about anything? He's not going to win the Presidency and the only way he gets into the ******* White House is if he pays for a ****ing tour.
 
hockeybeat said:
Who the **** cares what Mike ****ing Huck-a-****ing-bee thinks about anything? He's not going to win the Presidency and the only way he gets into the ******* White House is if he pays for a ****ing tour.

But you're right on one thing. Most candidates who may get in will be going to a god-damn White House. And it's our loss.
 
That crap sure scared me. Also sounded like a lot of parsing of words to try to sound less scary than he really is. It's also not a matter of whether he will personally be creating curriculums for eighth grade textbooks. And it isn't a matter of whether he believes in God (Why do people give a **** whether he believes in something no one can prove?). To me it comes down to this: Have faith in some sort of religion if it makes you sleep at night. I envy you, in a way. But is his faith loony, and will it mean he will create policy based on those loony beliefs. Will he outlaw stem cell research, for example, or try to mandate government-sponsored religion in any way, or try to outlaw contraception? And he scares me a little, because religion DOESN'T just mean Christianity. When he says he believes in God, let's face it, he has just one model for religion. The fact that Christianity defines him IS an issue, because that is not the kind of thing that should be defining the presidency. So is natural for people to get tweaked when he pretty much says he doesn't believe in evolution, for which there is at least evidence, unlike the bible stories. We are a secular country--with a Christian majority--but still secular when it comes to our laws and the rights we enjoy. Would a guy like this show his stripes if elected and forget that? I'm afraid so.
 
The Big Ragu said:
That crap sure scared me. Also sounded like a lot of parsing of words to try to sound less scary than he really is. It's also not a matter of whether he will personally be creating curriculums for eighth grade textbooks. And it isn't a matter of whether he believes in God (Why do people give a **** whether he believes in something no one can prove?). To me it comes down to this: Have faith in some sort of religion if it makes you sleep at night. I envy you, in a way. But is his faith loony, and will it mean he will create policy based on those loony beliefs. Will he outlaw stem cell research, for example, or try to mandate government-sponsored religion in any way, or try to outlaw contraception? And he scares me a little, because religion DOESN'T just mean Christianity. When he says he believes in God, let's face it, he has just one model for religion. The fact that Christianity defines him IS an issue, because that is not the kind of thing that should be defining the presidency. So is natural for people to get tweaked when he pretty much says he doesn't believe in evolution, for which there is at least evidence, unlike the bible stories. We are a secular country--with a Christian majority--but still secular when it comes to our laws and the rights we enjoy. Would a guy like this show his stripes if elected and forget that? I'm afraid so.

Whiskey tango foxtrot? What is scary about a man who says he believes in God? CNN must haved edited out the part where he says you have to believe, too, or else.

No one will ever accuse me of being a religious zealot (I can't remember the last time I went to church or tried to foist the idea of an all-knowing, all-power supreme being on someone), but you have to read pretty far down on my list of scary people to find Mike Huckabee.
 
But FenPhen and Co., is running.....
And Ragu, I think it would be many more running away if a Muslim was running and contending for president of a country which is predominantly Christian.
 
The Big Ragu said:
That crap sure scared me. Also sounded like a lot of parsing of words to try to sound less scary than he really is. It's also not a matter of whether he will personally be creating curriculums for eighth grade textbooks. And it isn't a matter of whether he believes in God (Why do people give a **** whether he believes in something no one can prove?). To me it comes down to this: Have faith in some sort of religion if it makes you sleep at night. I envy you, in a way. But is his faith loony, and will it mean he will create policy based on those loony beliefs. Will he outlaw stem cell research, for example, or try to mandate government-sponsored religion in any way, or try to outlaw contraception? And he scares me a little, because religion DOESN'T just mean Christianity. When he says he believes in God, let's face it, he has just one model for religion. The fact that Christianity defines him IS an issue, because that is not the kind of thing that should be defining the presidency. So is natural for people to get tweaked when he pretty much says he doesn't believe in evolution, for which there is at least evidence, unlike the bible stories. We are a secular country--with a Christian majority--but still secular when it comes to our laws and the rights we enjoy. Would a guy like this show his stripes if elected and forget that? I'm afraid so.

I bet he shot straighter than nine-tenths of the liars on any given podium. Hell, the Clintons based truth on the latest poll data, and that isn't the way I define a leader of the free world.
 
I did think it was totally awesome when he said there are probably candidates who don't believe in God. That wasn't a strawman or anything. No sirree. Democrats? Paganists! Dancing round the maypole!

What's that, you say? All but one professes faith in a mainstream Christian denomination? The only one who doesn't is Unitarian Mike Gravel, who has as much chance of winning the presidency as I do? Well, golly.

One more thing: If Hillary stood up there, was asked the same question and gave the same answer, you'd be on here pitching a fit about how she "ducked the question" and "refused to take a stand" and "doesn't have the courage of her convictions." Explain to me how not answering the damn question makes Mike Huckabee a strong leader and Hillary Clinton the first cousin of the Ayatollah.
 
Calvin Hobbes said:
The Big Ragu said:
That crap sure scared me. Also sounded like a lot of parsing of words to try to sound less scary than he really is. It's also not a matter of whether he will personally be creating curriculums for eighth grade textbooks. And it isn't a matter of whether he believes in God (Why do people give a **** whether he believes in something no one can prove?). To me it comes down to this: Have faith in some sort of religion if it makes you sleep at night. I envy you, in a way. But is his faith loony, and will it mean he will create policy based on those loony beliefs. Will he outlaw stem cell research, for example, or try to mandate government-sponsored religion in any way, or try to outlaw contraception? And he scares me a little, because religion DOESN'T just mean Christianity. When he says he believes in God, let's face it, he has just one model for religion. The fact that Christianity defines him IS an issue, because that is not the kind of thing that should be defining the presidency. So is natural for people to get tweaked when he pretty much says he doesn't believe in evolution, for which there is at least evidence, unlike the bible stories. We are a secular country--with a Christian majority--but still secular when it comes to our laws and the rights we enjoy. Would a guy like this show his stripes if elected and forget that? I'm afraid so.

Whiskey tango foxtrot? What is scary about a man who says he believes in God? CNN must haved edited out the part where he says you have to believe, too, or else.

No one will ever accuse me of being a religious zealot (I can't remember the last time I went to church or tried to foist the idea of an all-knowing, all-power supreme being on someone), but you have to read pretty far down on my list of scary people to find Mike Huckabee.

I could have stated it a bit better, but he doesn't just believe in God. He's an ordained minister and until he realized it was a bit of a liability with the evolution thing, it was the thing he wanted out there as the attribute people might choose him on, as in "Huckabee, God's candidate." That scares me for the reasons I outlined. Experience tells me that politicians like that hide what they have in mind long enough to get elected and then let "God" dictate their policy. I personally don't want that. Also, as I said, "God" to him is Christianity. And as much as I agree with many Christian values, I don't buy into some of what I consider the loonier aspects of what many politicians who consider themselves Christian end doing. There is no reason to fight efforts to do stem cell research, sex education is not a bad thing and I don't want someone who needs to be reminded constantly that we are a secular country. I am afraid Huckabee is that guy, he is just hiding it a bit right now, because he knows being what he has represented himself to be in Arkansas won't fly in much of the rest of the country. I could be wrong. But I don't want to take that chance.
 

Huckabee's answer was not just wrong and full of misinformation but it painted two points that people need to believe in according to him. He stated that either you believe God created everything or you believe it was all an accident.

The reality is that there is evidence that points out information regarding the Big Bang Theory. There is no evidence about mythological gods doing any such creation.

The other reality is that a third option, one that Huckabee refused to speak on, was the answer of "I don't know." It really is a simple option. Maybe there wasn't a big bang but more of a simple twist. A lot of people say, I don't know, because they don't know and they don't like the two options that Huckabee declared are the only two.

I also wanted to point out that Huckabee refused to accept evolution as fact. Doing show demonstrates to me that he is in no way intelligent enough to be president.
 

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