Greatest comeback ever?

[Flying Headbutt]

Damn, once again Oz and I are on the same track here. And both he and I don't give a **** about Carolina.

 

[Boobie Miles]

No.

And let's ease up on the praise for Manning and Dungy, it was clearly the Lord that won this game. I understand that everyone feels the need to throw that in every award show acceptance speech and post game interview, but it seemed a little excessive at the trophy presentation.

 

[fromdawntodesk]

Sigh. Does everything that happens in the last 15 minutes have to immediately be sumitted for "greatest ever" consideration?

Usually, I'd agree with you. It is cliche. But what Manning, Dungy and the Colts did was not cliche.

This conversation has merit.

Be honest here. Did you actually WATCH the Bills-Oilers game? Not just the highlights. I mean all the way through.

It's really not even close.

Peyton comes from 18 down in the last 10 minutes, get back to us.

 

[Freelance Hack]

Sigh. Does everything that happens in the last 15 minutes have to immediately be sumitted for "greatest ever" consideration?

Usually, I'd agree with you. It is cliche. But what Manning, Dungy and the Colts did was not cliche.

This conversation has merit.

Be honest here. Did you actually WATCH the Bills-Oilers game? Not just the highlights. I mean all the way through.

It's really not even close.

Peyton comes from 18 down in the last 10 minutes, get back to us.

Yeah, I watched the Bills-Oilers game in it's entirety.

It was a Wild Card game. While it was the playoffs, it was not a championship game. The fact that a Super Bowl berth was on the line tonight outweighs the point differential between the two games.

Look, I realize I'm in the minority here. I'm just trying to start a good discussion about this (and other) great comebacks.

And Diego, I concur on the Chargers-Dolphins game being a better game than tonight's Colts-Pats contest.

 

[Flying Headbutt]

Freelance, tonight's game was a great comeback, no question. I kind of had this feeling though that Manning would pull it off. Hell Marv's call of the game on radio was even fairly even tempered, at a time when you'd expect a PBP guy to be on the edge of his seat.

The Reich game was over though. Just over. Hell I remember going outside to play football for a while because the game was so lopsided. To comeback like that was incredible. Both were great comebacks. But the Buffalo/Houston game was simply amazing and beyond probable. That's why it has to have the edge.

 

[micropolitan guy]

Bills had a backup quarterback. Trailed by 32 in the second half, not by 18 in the first quarter.

 

[fromdawntodesk]

Sigh. Does everything that happens in the last 15 minutes have to immediately be sumitted for "greatest ever" consideration?

Usually, I'd agree with you. It is cliche. But what Manning, Dungy and the Colts did was not cliche.

This conversation has merit.

Be honest here. Did you actually WATCH the Bills-Oilers game? Not just the highlights. I mean all the way through.

It's really not even close.

Peyton comes from 18 down in the last 10 minutes, get back to us.

Yeah, I watched the Bills-Oilers game in it's entirety.

It was a Wild Card game. While it was the playoffs, it was not a championship game. The fact that a Super Bowl berth was on the line tonight outweighs the point differential between the two games.

Look, I realize I'm in the minority here. I'm just trying to start a good discussion about this (and other) great comebacks.

And Diego, I concur on the Chargers-Dolphins game being a better game than tonight's Colts-Pats contest.

If the fact a Super Bowl was on the line outweighs the point differential, the fact Frank Reich was at QB, not Jim Kelly, outweighs the stakes. Fair?

 

[Mystery_Meat]

No.

And let's ease up on the praise for Manning and Dungy, it was clearly the Lord that won this game. I understand that everyone feels the need to throw that in every award show acceptance speech and post game interview, but it seemed a little excessive at the trophy presentation.

From what I understand, both are born-again Christians. In which case, they're likely not just throwing it out there because it's on page 12 of the Reader's Digest It Pays To Enrich Your Quote Power book.

 

[Buck]

The Frank Reich game was unbelievable.

 

[micropolitan guy]

Well the Super Bowl was also on the line for the Oilers and Bills, because obviously the loser couldn't get there.

 

[Freelance Hack]

Sigh. Does everything that happens in the last 15 minutes have to immediately be sumitted for "greatest ever" consideration?

Usually, I'd agree with you. It is cliche. But what Manning, Dungy and the Colts did was not cliche.

This conversation has merit.

Be honest here. Did you actually WATCH the Bills-Oilers game? Not just the highlights. I mean all the way through.

It's really not even close.

Peyton comes from 18 down in the last 10 minutes, get back to us.

Yeah, I watched the Bills-Oilers game in it's entirety.

It was a Wild Card game. While it was the playoffs, it was not a championship game. The fact that a Super Bowl berth was on the line tonight outweighs the point differential between the two games.

Look, I realize I'm in the minority here. I'm just trying to start a good discussion about this (and other) great comebacks.

And Diego, I concur on the Chargers-Dolphins game being a better game than tonight's Colts-Pats contest.

If the fact a Super Bowl was on the line outweighs the point differential, the fact Frank Reich was at QB, not Jim Kelly, outweighs the stakes. Fair?

Perhaps, although Reich wasn't your typical rusty-off-the-bench backup. IIRC, Reich saw quite a bit of action that season.

Reich also happened to be the quarterback who led the greatest comeback in college football history. Just pointing that out for the coincidence.

 

[Michael_ Gee]

Watched both. Bills-Oilers is still greatest. This one was pretty great, which only shows how amazing the Bills' deal was.

 

[Boobie Miles]

No.

And let's ease up on the praise for Manning and Dungy, it was clearly the Lord that won this game. I understand that everyone feels the need to throw that in every award show acceptance speech and post game interview, but it seemed a little excessive at the trophy presentation.

From what I understand, both are born-again Christians. In which case, they're likely not just throwing it out there because it's on page 12 of the Reader's Digest It Pays To Enrich Your Quote Power book.

I'm sure that's true, but I just felt a little odd that Dungy began talking about who really won the game -- and I was expecting him to say the defense or the offensive line -- and he says something about the Lord, and 60,000 people went crazy. Just seemed bizarre.

I just don't see the reason for people to always mention God, but then again I'm not very religious. I'll go back to the old line, you don't hear the losing team thanking God too often.

 

[Flying Headbutt]

Reich also happened to be the quarterback who led the greatest comeback in college football history. Just pointing that out for the coincidence.

Sadly, Northwestern allowed Michigan State to eclipse that record this year.

 

[Boobie Miles]

I don't care as much about this issue as it may seem, but just to play devil's advocate for those who are ok with all this God talk after games: I already know the answer concerning the general public, but would it still be cool with you if instead of "thank the Lord" they were saying "praise Allah"?

 

[Mystery_Meat]

I don't care as much about this issue as it may seem, but just to play devil's advocate for those who are ok with all this God talk after games: I already know the answer concerning the general public, but would it still be cool with you if instead of "thank the Lord" they were saying "praise Allah"?

Yes. Yes it would. I'm sure there's a few people who'd love it if I said "NO NO NO THIS IS A COUNTRY BY CHRISTIANS FOR CHRISTIANS AND THE REST OF YOU UNSAVED TWATFALAFELS CAN LITERALLY GO TO HELL", but you won't get it from this guy. I have absolutely no problem with anyone who makes an honest expression of faith, be it mine (Christian) or not.

And Piotr: Unless I'm mistaken (and God knows it wouldn't be the first time in the last 10 minutes), the parable is of the beaten and dirty man who begs for undeserved mercy for his transgressions against his Lord, and how it contrasted with the Pharisee's "thank you, God, for making me not like that loser" prayer, and whose prayer pleased Him most (three guesses, last two don't count).

If they're being hypocritcal, that's one thing, but are people so sensitive that their hair stands on end ANY time someone says "Jesus" or even "God"? If so, then I think public discourse is the worse for it.

 

[Left_Coast]

Well the Super Bowl was also on the line for the Oilers and Bills, because obviously the loser couldn't get there.

And the Bills got there that year.

 

[Flying Headbutt]

How about we let people say what they want without getting upset. If it's on broadcast, well, that's the immediacy of it. You don't have to put it in print. In fact it never seems to get there. But I don't see the uproar over it all. Sports is a microcosm of life, with winning and losing, good guys and bad guys, charming guys and quite, private people. It also means some guys are religious and some don't bother with church. So what?

 

[Boobie Miles]

How about we let people say what they want without getting upset. If it's on broadcast, well, that's the immediacy of it. You don't have to put it in print. In fact it never seems to get there. But I don't see the uproar over it all. Sports is a microcosm of life, with winning and losing, good guys and bad guys, charming guys and quite, private people. It also means some guys are religious and some don't bother with church. So what?

No uproar here. I just think often times it's disingenuous, and pretty much a waste of breath to say the words. Seemingly not the case with Dungy... still thought it was odd when a stadium full of fans went nuts when he thanked the Lord for the win. Although he probably could have said I killed a man yesterday just to watch him die, and he would have gotten the same reaction.

I'm definitely not fired up about it, and I don't know the Bible well enough to cite any examples from it, but I think like most things in life, some things are better seen and not heard (i.e. if your a religious person that's great, live your life that way and you'll be happy... I just don't really care to hear about it).

 

[Mystery_Meat]

How about we let people say what they want without getting upset. If it's on broadcast, well, that's the immediacy of it. You don't have to put it in print. In fact it never seems to get there. But I don't see the uproar over it all. Sports is a microcosm of life, with winning and losing, good guys and bad guys, charming guys and quite, private people. It also means some guys are religious and some don't bother with church. So what?

No uproar here. I just think often times it's disingenuous, and pretty much a waste of breath to say the words. Seemingly not the case with Dungy... still thought it was odd when a stadium full of fans went nuts when he thanked the Lord for the win. Although he probably could have said I killed a man yesterday just to watch him die, and he would have gotten the same reaction.

I'm definitely not fired up about it, and I don't know the Bible well enough to cite any examples from it, but I think like most things in life, some things are better seen and not heard (i.e. if your a religious person that's great, live your life that way and you'll be happy... I just don't really care to hear about it).

There's a lot of things I don't care to hear about, but it makes no difference to me. I don't like this idea of "you can be religious, just ****ing don't say anything about it" that some people have, because for all the things we CAN say these days, why can't (or shouldn't) people talk frankly about their faith?