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Diabeetus said:
From the AP Stylebook (2007) on possessives:

SINGULAR NOUNS NOT ENDING IN S: Add 's: the church's needs, the girl's toys, the horse's food.
Some style guides say that singular nouns ending in s sounds, such as ce, x and z may take either the apostrophe alone or 's. See SPECIAL EXPRESSIONS. But otherwise, for consistency and ease in remembering a rule, always use 's if the word does not end in the letter s: Butz's policies, the fox's den, the justice's verdict, Marx's theories, the prince's life, Xerox's profits.
SPECIAL EXPRESSIONS: (examples): for appearance' sake, for conscience' sake, for goodness' sake. Otherwise use the rule.

Nothing about triple sibilants or anything like that. So I would say Hendrix's guitar or the Red Sox's success. Doesn't seem too difficult.

EDIT: Unless your specific paper's styleguide says otherwise, that is.

THat post really should have been End. Of. Thread.
 
ADifferentOkie said:
Diabeetus said:
From the AP Stylebook (2007) on possessives:

SINGULAR NOUNS NOT ENDING IN S: Add 's: the church's needs, the girl's toys, the horse's food.
Some style guides say that singular nouns ending in s sounds, such as ce, x and z may take either the apostrophe alone or 's. See SPECIAL EXPRESSIONS. But otherwise, for consistency and ease in remembering a rule, always use 's if the word does not end in the letter s: Butz's policies, the fox's den, the justice's verdict, Marx's theories, the prince's life, Xerox's profits.
SPECIAL EXPRESSIONS: (examples): for appearance' sake, for conscience' sake, for goodness' sake. Otherwise use the rule.

Nothing about triple sibilants or anything like that. So I would say Hendrix's guitar or the Red Sox's success. Doesn't seem too difficult.

EDIT: Unless your specific paper's styleguide says otherwise, that is.

THat post really should have been End. Of. Thread.
Gotta admit, I'm intrigued by a journalist who thinks that saying "Moses" involves two "s" sounds.
 
From my college linguistics class ... The "s" sound and the "z" sound are related. The "s" is unvoiced and the "z" is voiced. That's the only difference. You form your mouth the same way to make both sounds.
 
Football_Bat said:
From my college linguistics class ... The "s" sound and the "z" sound are related. The "s" is unvoiced and the "z" is voiced. That's the only difference. You form your mouth the same way to make both sounds.
Maybe he works at a lip-readers' newspaper, then?
 
Simon: You seem to want to pick a fight here with somebody who isn't looking for one. S sound or z sound, moses's, if you put an extra s on it, makes three. That's pretty well documented here and elsewhere. That's all I meant to say.
I don't know why that "intrigues" you, but you can bite my ass, right on the steroid abcess.
 
Another Hendrix grammer question:

Is it "I was getting layed" or "I was getting laid"
 
You mean, in "All Along the Watchtower?"

"So let us not talk falsely now, the hour is getting late."

Although, I like your idea, too. Unless you were talking about another song ...
 
beardpuller said:
You mean, in "All Along the Watchtower?"

"So let us not talk falsely now, the hour is getting late."

Although, I like your idea, too. Unless you were talking about another song ...

That's the one BP - good pick up. It's one of the most mispronounced songs in all of rock and roll .
 
beardpuller said:
S sound or z sound, moses's, if you put an extra s on it, makes three. That's pretty well documented here and elsewhere. That's all I meant to say.
It ends in S. No 's on it. Doesn't matter what you think about sounds.
 
Boom_70 said:
beardpuller said:
You mean, in "All Along the Watchtower?"

"So let us not talk falsely now, the hour is getting late."

Although, I like your idea, too. Unless you were talking about another song ...

That's the one BP - good pick up. It's one of the most mispronounced songs in all of rock and roll .

'Scuse me, while I kiss this guy.
 
pressboxer said:
Boom_70 said:
beardpuller said:
You mean, in "All Along the Watchtower?"

"So let us not talk falsely now, the hour is getting late."

Although, I like your idea, too. Unless you were talking about another song ...

That's the one BP - good pick up. It's one of the most mispronounced songs in all of rock and roll .

'Scuse me, while I kiss this guy.
NTTAWWT.
 
Diabeetus: YES. I agree. You WOULDN'T put another s on it, because it would create ... never mind. I'm going to try posting in English next time. On something way less esoteric.
But I can't stop myself from pointing out that the fact it has an s on the end of it is meaningless, by itself. Your kid would say, "Hey, mom, I'm going to Chris's house." Not Chris' house. Or "The Star Wars movies are George Lucas's crowning achievement." Not Lucas'.
 
So, just to wrap this up, since a couple folks have decided to get so darn snippy ... Diabeetus, it DOES matter what I think about sounds, since your idea that everything with an s on it doesn't take an apostrophe s is, like, wrong. (see above post. Extensive quoting is for sissies. And people less lazy than I am.)
 
beardpuller said:
So, just to wrap this up, since a couple folks have decided to get so darn snippy ... Diabeetus, it DOES matter what I think about sounds, since your idea that everything with an s on it doesn't take an apostrophe s is, like, wrong. (see above post. Extensive quoting is for sissies. And people less lazy than I am.)
Everything with "an s on [the end of] it" doesn't take an "apostrophe s"

That's right.

And Moses is one z sound, and one s sound.

Now, go home.
 
Dude, I am home.
You would seem to fancy yourself quite the picker of nits.
Good luck with that.
I think I've explained what I meant in a fairly coherent, logical, and even more or less cordial manner. I'm moving on.
Cheers.
 
This thread should have been dead long ago.
I think the vast majority of us are in agreement you do Hendrix's, Moses', etc.
The stylebook settled it.
 

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