Finally, some Title IX sanity.

[Johnny Dangerously]

Oh, one more thing. Please, Cadet, don't take this is as a shot at you, but ``irregardless'' is not a word, it's simply ``regardless.'' Again, not a slam, just an anal editor-type trying to educate one and all regarding a pet peeve.

Carry on.

Oh, yes it is, says Merriam-Webster.



A nonstandard word, says Merriam-Webster, but a word, nonetheless.

"On the other hand, saying that irregardless is not a real word, in spite of all the evidence to the contrary, is just a different kind of ignorance."

(Now, excuse me while I duck for cover)

 

[YankeeFan]

Oh, one more thing. Please, Cadet, don't take this is as a shot at you, but ``irregardless'' is not a word, it's simply ``regardless.'' Again, not a slam, just an anal editor-type trying to educate one and all regarding a pet peeve.

Carry on.

Oh, yes it is, says Merriam-Webster.



A nonstandard word, says Merriam-Webster, but a word, nonetheless.

"On the other hand, saying that irregardless is not a real word, in spite of all the evidence to the contrary, is just a different kind of ignorance."

(Now, excuse me while I duck for cover)

What would we do without you correcting a seven year post?

But, since the post is seven years old, we need to know when Merriam-Webster decided to include it.

Since the first comment on the definition is from 2011, I'm going to guess it was some time around then:

www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/irregardless

So, nicely done, Captain Hindsight.

 

[LongTimeListener]

I think LeBron and Cleveland are going to do it one of these years. For sure by 2009.

 

[YankeeFan]

Hey, Columbus, you didn't land in the Indies.

 

[da man]

Shame about that Lindbergh baby.

 

[Starman]

Nice use of Google Docs...

Amazed that some schools I am familiar with carry close to 150 for football but only mid 20s for girls basketball.

The female sport that is a ***** to add is lacrosse. It takes a special field with a special grass (for Virginia) that requires a certain mower to cut the Bermuda grass.

Extra basketball, volleyball, soccer and tennis teams for freshmen for example are an easy add because the facilities should already be there.

I wonder if the number of girls who play soccer all their lives, and nothing else, but do not make a varsity spot and give up on school sports, hurts the numbers for other sports?

I suspect they do. Most travel soccer coaches around here, from about age 10 on, order their players to quit playing all other sports. Period.

Some coaches in other sports OCCASIONALLY do it but soccer by far is the most egregious in this practice.

The parents apparently ain't too good at math: they can't do the simple equation, "Hmmmmm, let's see. In my daughter's school district, in her grade, there are a total of 48 (Forty-Eight) girls playing travel soccer. This is comparable to numbers in other grades. My daughter is 12 and in sixth grade. In five years she will be a junior in HS and, presuming she has continued to play, it will be 'her turn' to make the varsity, since most varsity sports teams are predominantly made up of juniors and seniors. The travel soccer coaches have all assured us that playing travel soccer in grade school is a must to make the varsity in high school and only players with 'total dedication' have a chance to make it. When it comes time for soccer practice to start in 2018, my daughter will be trying out against 48 girls in the class in front of her and 47 other girls in her own class. That ought to be an awesome varsity soccer team with 96 girls on the roster."

 

[da man]

Hey, Columbus, you didn't land in the Indies.

Then how come he found Indians there, huh?

There. I've run rings round you logically.

 

[BenPoquette]

Odds that a thread created in 2006 would include a hat-tip to Google Docs?

 

[Justin_Rice]

Odds that a thread created in 2006 would include a hat-tip to Google Docs?

LOL good point .... mostly I was just trying to gin up discussion about a project I put an ass pile of work into over the last few months!

But yes, it is a nice google doc - something that didn't exist when this thread started!

http://news.fredericksburg.com/newsdesk/2013/07/06/do-schools-play-fair-with-girls-sports/

 

[93Devil]

Most of us were not on Facebook when this thread started.

 

[Justin_Rice]

Google docs really served as a nice tool on this project - our ancient pagination system doesn't allow you to work from home dialed in, so we did most of the reporting and initial writing in a set of shared documents.

Just the ability to work at the same time on the same file was invaluable, especially since this was mostly done in spare moments outside of the day-to-day work on the paper.

 

[Mark2010]

Said this many times before, but Title IX did far more harm than good when it comes to college sports.

We're dropping baseball, hockey, wrestling and anything else we can find in order to add women's crew or gymnastics? All the for the sake of balancing some numerical inequity caused by an 85-man football team?

 

[Mystery Meat II]

Why does lacrosse in Virginia require a special field with special grass when plenty of northeast schools play on their repainted soccer fields -- or the same turf field they use for everything else? Girls lacrosse is one of the fastest growing high school sports in New Jersey, with volleyball (I think) second.

They ***** for Bermuda grass...

Oh ****, I'm thinking of field hockey. Field hockey parents ***** for Bermuda. My bad.

I'd have thought field hockey parents would ***** for artificial, since that's what the state tournament is played on and what you generally see at the college level.

 

[outofplace]

Said this many times before, but Title IX did far more harm than good when it comes to college sports.

We're dropping baseball, hockey, wrestling and anything else we can find in order to add women's crew or gymnastics? All the for the sake of balancing some numerical inequity caused by an 85-man football team?

As usual, the ignorance is strong in this one.

Women's collegiate athletics were pretty much a joke before Title IX. Anybody who argues that it did more help than good at any level is demonstrating either ignorance or a complete disregard for women's athletics.

If you want to argue that it's time is past or that it is time to adapt the law to be more fair to men and women, that would be reasonable. To say it was never any good in the first place is not.

 

[Justin_Rice]

I'd have thought field hockey parents would ***** for artificial, since that's what the state tournament is played on and what you generally see at the college level.

The problem with turf and field hockey is the TYPE of turf.

Field hockey wants the old-school fake-grass-on-concrete stuff, the kind of turf no other sport wants on their field.

 

[Charlie Brown]

Said this many times before, but Title IX did far more harm than good when it comes to men's college sports.

Translated it for you, outofplace.

 

[Justin_Rice]

As usual, the ignorance is strong in this one.

Women's collegiate athletics were pretty much a joke before Title IX. Anybody who argues that it did more help than good at any level is demonstrating either ignorance or a complete disregard for women's athletics.

If you want to argue that it's time is past or that it is time to adapt the law to be more fair to men and women, that would be reasonable. To say it was never any good in the first place is not.

Title IX clearly corrected a great injustice in sports.

But they've got to figure out a better way to measure what is and what isn't discrimination ... something other than proportionality.

 

[outofplace]

Said this many times before, but Title IX did far more harm than good when it comes to men's college sports.

Translated it for you, outofplace.

So Mark plays the ignorant misogynist and I get the snide?

 

[SpeedTchr]

I should have said this before, but Title IX did far more good than harm when it comes to college sports. If I cared about women, that is.

FIFY

 

[buckweaver]

But they've got to figure out a better way to measure what is and what isn't discrimination ... something other than proportionality.

There are, as you know, three "prongs" that can be used in determining whether an institution is in compliance with the law. Proportionality is only one of the three.

That schools (and ignorant supporters of said schools) continue to cry over and over that they can't be in compliance without cutting men's sports is a lazy and uncreative way of trying to break a law that's been on the books for 40 years.

Get over it already and follow the law. It won't kill you.