Boobie Miles
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IU90 said:That anti-gay label that some of you have tried to hang on Dungy is completely unfair bull****. And I say that as a guy who's pro gay-marriage and certainly no conservative.Boobie Miles said:IU90 said:Fenian_Bastard said:Whoa.
First of all, as near as I can tell, the SB ring count is 3-1 in favor of The Miserable Dickhead over The Judgmental Christian Dickhead. Hard to make TJCD out the winner there. I don't care if Bill Belichick doesn't like sports journalists. Tony Dungy doesn't like people simply because of who (and how) they ****, and he brings god into the matter besides. Forgive me if I'm not impressed.
And the notion that preferring Belichick to Dungy means that someone is prima facie difficult to live with strikes me as a bit over the top.
FB, that's the first time I've seen anyone use the word dickhead in reference to Dungy, and it is completely out of line. Dungy treats those around him with a greater degree of graciousness and respect than any football coach I've ever seen. And anyone in the Colts organization will tell you that means EVERYONE from the lowest janitorial guy on up, and also pretty means always, even after the most devastatingly painful defeats and the most devastatingly painful personal tragedy. There's not a dickheaded bone in his body.
...Unless said janitor is gay, of course.
Boobie, please back that up by showing me a single anti-gay remark that Dungy has ever made in his entire life. I bet you can't do it because he's never done it. He accepted an invitation to speak at a function for some christian organization called the Family Institute that takes an anti-gay marriage political position. Big ****ing deal.
Yeah, Dungy is a Christian, and yeah elements of the christian right can be annoying and dangerous. But his religious beliefs alone shouldn't cause anyone to call him a dickhead, instead dickheadedness should be judged by how he personally treats others, at least IMO. Imagine calling a muslim coach a dickhead solely because he adhered to the tenets of his faith.
I get the impression that some writers pounced on this only because they were tired of Dungy acting all classy and nice for all these years and were looking for some chink in the armour. They heard about this speaking gig and figured there it is, we can spin this into a claim that he's anti-gay, nevermind the fact that he's never actually said a hateful word about gays in his entire life.
Would you like to back up that last statement with the same burden of proof you want me to provide?
Look I don't care if Dungy is a saint or a piece of ****. I just threw that line out because the truth is we don't what type of people these guys are. I just think it's useless to make judgment about a guy's morals based on what he says in public or how he treats the press.
This is professional sports. Winning is far and above everything else in importance. If you can be a good guy at the same time that's great, but I don't understand why everyone acts like that's so important nowadays.