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if a game is won 4-2 on penalty kicks in high school, what's the official final score?
 
Here's what I've heard...

If the game is tied 1-1 before PKs, the winner of the PKs is awarded one goal, making the final score 2-1. But you're dealing with HS soccer, so who knows.

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
 
Regular season game they go to PKs? I've always understood the game remains a tie, but a team advances to the next round on PKs. I think, if it just a regular game that for some reason goes to PKs, Ryan is correct.

But I don't know any of it for sure.
 
"The game ended in a 0-0 tie after regulation and two overtimes. Team A advances on penalty kicks, 4-2."
 
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2underpar said:
Gracias. That's what i thought. Now, go back to your MMA

My MMA?

I used to cover Massanutten Military Academy. I enjoy watching Mixed Martial Arts. Can you be more specific? :)
 
that's pretty much how i wrote it.
I'm sure some futbol expert will call me if it's wrong.
thanks for the help, ya'll
 
We've had this discussion before, and it was concluded that different high school associations will have their own rules on this.
 
2underpar said:
that's pretty much how i wrote it.
I'm sure some futbol expert will call me if it's wrong.
thanks for the help, ya'll

That's the perfect way to write it.

Moderator1 said:
Regular season game they go to PKs? I've always understood the game remains a tie, but a team advances to the next round on PKs. I think, if it just a regular game that for some reason goes to PKs, Ryan is correct.

But I don't know any of it for sure.

What I've seen is that only regular season tournament games use a shootout. In pool play you get 3 points for a regulation win, 2 for a shootout win, 1 for a shootout loss and none for a regulation loss to try and avoid teams being tied on points.

Once it gets to the knockout rounds it's used as normal to determine who advances. However, in both instances, the team that lost the shootout gets to count it as a tie in their record.
 
GB-Hack said:
2underpar said:
that's pretty much how i wrote it.
I'm sure some futbol expert will call me if it's wrong.
thanks for the help, ya'll

That's the perfect way to write it.

Moderator1 said:
Regular season game they go to PKs? I've always understood the game remains a tie, but a team advances to the next round on PKs. I think, if it just a regular game that for some reason goes to PKs, Ryan is correct.

But I don't know any of it for sure.

What I've seen is that only regular season tournament games use a shootout. In pool play you get 3 points for a regulation win, 2 for a shootout win, 1 for a shootout loss and none for a regulation loss to try and avoid teams being tied on points.

Once it gets to the knockout rounds it's used as normal to determine who advances. However, in both instances, the team that lost the shootout gets to count it as a tie in their record.

There are high school associations that use pool play?
 
In Texas, it's up to individual districts to determine whether to break regular-season ties. So it's a mixed bag: some use the shootout method that MLS used years ago, some use overtime, some use a combination, some call a tie a tie. Moddy's description of how to write it is spot on. It can be real hard to boil down to a scoreline, however.
 
Moderator1 is correct. It should count as a tie, with one team advancing on penalty kicks ... at least if this happens in playoffs or a tournament. That's the NCAA standard, except when the national championship game is decided by PKs (oddly enough).
That's what we do. I get calls from teams that win the PK wondering why we called it a tie, but I've never gotten a complain from the losing side.
 
Moderator1 said:
Regular season game they go to PKs? I've always understood the game remains a tie, but a team advances to the next round on PKs. I think, if it just a regular game that for some reason goes to PKs, Ryan is correct.

But I don't know any of it for sure.

Our state uses them for district games. In normal games the coaches can choose whether they want to use them or not, or even if they want to play overtime or just let it end in a tie. Some coaches like to do it once in a while to practice that situation for the playoffs.
 
spud said:
GB-Hack said:
2underpar said:
that's pretty much how i wrote it.
I'm sure some futbol expert will call me if it's wrong.
thanks for the help, ya'll

That's the perfect way to write it.

Moderator1 said:
Regular season game they go to PKs? I've always understood the game remains a tie, but a team advances to the next round on PKs. I think, if it just a regular game that for some reason goes to PKs, Ryan is correct.

But I don't know any of it for sure.

What I've seen is that only regular season tournament games use a shootout. In pool play you get 3 points for a regulation win, 2 for a shootout win, 1 for a shootout loss and none for a regulation loss to try and avoid teams being tied on points.

Once it gets to the knockout rounds it's used as normal to determine who advances. However, in both instances, the team that lost the shootout gets to count it as a tie in their record.

There are high school associations that use pool play?

These are just for regular season tournaments. We have a couple of big ones, one 16-team, the other usually two 16-team events that run side by side before the state playoffs start.
 
2underpar said:
this was a playoff game, so somebody had to win.

Someone had to ADVANCE. No one had to win. I'm pretty sure the fine print does say PKs are used to determine the advancer, not the winner.
 

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