Duke professors backpedaling

[hondo]

http://www.newsobserver.com/1185/story/533242.html

I read the "open letter." I also read the original ad (links to both can be found in the above story). You can judge for yourself, but that ad certainly contained at least the appearance that the lacrosse players were not being given the presumption of innocence by this gang of 88 or whatever they're called -- despite what they're claiming now.

 

[Fenian_Bastard]

I don't think the ad says anything of the sort. It does assume that the event happened, but there's a lot of "no matter what the investigation may show" stuff in there and, if it turns out there was no rape, it doesn't make any of the allegations of sexism and racism in the original ad more or less true. The open letter, however, is pretty plainly some faculty people's attempt at CYA maneuvering.
I thought the point made in the ad about what might have happened if this were the football team was an interesting one.

 

[slappy4428]

I don't think the ad says anything of the sort. It does assume that the event happened, but there's a lot of "no matter what the investigation may show" stuff in there and, if it turns out there was no rape, it doesn't make any of the allegations of sexism and racism in the original ad more or less true. The open letter, however, is pretty plainly some faculty people's attempt at CYA maneuvering.
I thought the point made in the ad about what might have happened if this were the football team was an interesting one.

Duke has a football team?

 

[SportsDude]

This is amazing. I can't believe people like this get paid good money to teach college kids.

 

[hondo]

I don't think the ad says anything of the sort. It does assume that the event happened, but there's a lot of "no matter what the investigation may show" stuff in there and, if it turns out there was no rape, it doesn't make any of the allegations of sexism and racism in the original ad more or less true. The open letter, however, is pretty plainly some faculty people's attempt at CYA maneuvering.
I thought the point made in the ad about what might have happened if this were the football team was an interesting one.

Duke has a football team?

Yeah...they even finished third in the fraternity flag-football tournament.

 

[Crimson Tide]

Duke has a football team?

Yeah, they almost beat Alabama this year. What an embarrassment.

 

[Fenian_Bastard]

Duke has a football team?

Yeah, they almost beat Alabama this year. What an embarrassment.

Nick'll put a stop to that.

 

[slappy4428]

Duke has a football team?

Yeah, they almost beat Alabama this year. What an embarrassment.

Alabama has a football team?

I know. I was at the game...

 

[ondeadline]

Duke has a football team?

Yeah, they almost beat Alabama this year. What an embarrassment.

Duke came a chip-shot field goal away from beating ACC champion and Orange Bowl loser Wake Forest. It would have been terrible for one kick to ruin the Blue Devils' perfect (0-12) season. The Raiders just couldn't choke with the same consistency.

 

[shotglass]

I think both times the faculty wrote a letter was a damn good time to STFU and NOT write a letter.

This was not about them and how they felt about Duke's reputation. This was about an alleged rape case.

But they can't see past their ivy-covered offices and their Mensa cocktail parties.

 

[Mystery_Meat]

I thought the point made in the ad about what might have happened if this were the football team was an interesting one.

I thought it was more interesting that they used the football team as a hypothetical, and not the basketball team.

 

[alleyallen]

I think both times the faculty wrote a letter was a damn good time to STFU and NOT write a letter.

This was not about them and how they felt about Duke's reputation. This was about an alleged rape case.

But they can't see past their ivy-covered offices and their Mensa cocktail parties.

No argument on that opinion right there.

 

[Football_Bat]

I thought the point made in the ad about what might have happened if this were the football team was an interesting one.

I thought it was more interesting that they used the football team as a hypothetical, and not the basketball team.

Further evidence of their out-of-touchness.

 

[Mystery_Meat]

I thought the point made in the ad about what might have happened if this were the football team was an interesting one.

I thought it was more interesting that they used the football team as a hypothetical, and not the basketball team.

Further evidence of their out-of-touchness.

I was thinking maybe they were too afraid to even theoretically imply that the sacred cow of the Research Triangle was in any way blemished. Either that, or they have proof that Duke basketball players are gay.

 

[Fenian_Bastard]

I think both times the faculty wrote a letter was a damn good time to STFU and NOT write a letter.

This was not about them and how they felt about Duke's reputation. This was about an alleged rape case.

But they can't see past their ivy-covered offices and their Mensa cocktail parties.

"Mensa cocktail parties"?
Can I ask, in all seriousness, what in hell that's supposed to mean?

 

[Mystery_Meat]

I think both times the faculty wrote a letter was a damn good time to STFU and NOT write a letter.

This was not about them and how they felt about Duke's reputation. This was about an alleged rape case.

But they can't see past their ivy-covered offices and their Mensa cocktail parties.

"Mensa cocktail parties"?
Can I ask, in all seriousness, what in hell that's supposed to mean?

Hint: Here's what they serve there ...

THE BRAIN Drink Recipe
2 parts ABSOLUT MANDRIN
1 part Coconut Rum
1 part Black Raspberry Liqueur
Lime Wedge

Shake with ice and strain to a sling glass filled with ice cubes.

 

[shotglass]

I think both times the faculty wrote a letter was a damn good time to STFU and NOT write a letter.

This was not about them and how they felt about Duke's reputation. This was about an alleged rape case.

But they can't see past their ivy-covered offices and their Mensa cocktail parties.

"Mensa cocktail parties"?
Can I ask, in all seriousness, what in hell that's supposed to mean?

Now, FB, if you can't figure that out, I don't think I can explain it to you.

 

[Fenian_Bastard]

It reads like a cheap piece of phony proletarian outrage that plays on a malign streak of anti-intellectualism not unfamiliar to the followers of, among other people, George (Pointy-Headed Professors) Wallace.
But I could be wrong.

I think both times the faculty wrote a letter was a damn good time to STFU and NOT write a letter.

This was not about them and how they felt about Duke's reputation. This was about an alleged rape case.

But they can't see past their ivy-covered offices and their Mensa cocktail parties.

"Mensa cocktail parties"?
Can I ask, in all seriousness, what in hell that's supposed to mean?

Now, FB, if you can't figure that out, I don't think I can explain it to you.

It reads like a cheap piece of phony proletarian outrage that plays on a malign streak of anti-intellectualism not unfamiliar to the followers of, among other people, George (Pointy-Headed Professors) Wallace.
But I could be wrong.

 

[shotglass]

Not tooooo far.

 

[ondeadline]

I thought the point made in the ad about what might have happened if this were the football team was an interesting one.

I thought it was more interesting that they used the football team as a hypothetical, and not the basketball team.

It's because they didn't want to get the all-powerful Mike Krzyzewski upset.