Costly change is coming: Pat Haden expects NCAA to lose Ed O'bannon suit

[TigerVols]

Ed O'Bannon could very well go down as the eventual killer of the NCAA.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/college-football/news/20130402/ed-obannon-ncaa-case-primer/

(corrected spelling)

 

[LongTimeListener]

Re: Costly change is coming: Pat Hayden expects NCAA to lose Ed O'bannon suit

I can't wait, even if this does change 93Devil's viewing habits which is really the most important thing here.

College sports is the single strangest thing about American culture.

 

[Armchair_QB]

Re: Costly change is coming: Pat Hayden expects NCAA to lose Ed O'bannon suit

Anyone who loves the cesspool that is AAU basketball - and the pimps that control it - will love what major college athletics would become if the worst-case scenario comes true here.

Money would most definitely change hands but it would wind up in the pimps' hands, not the players'.

 

[poindexter]

Re: Costly change is coming: Pat Hayden expects NCAA to lose Ed O'bannon suit

Anyone who loves the cesspool that is AAU basketball - and the pimps that control it - will love what major college athletics would become if the worst-case scenario comes true here.

Money would most definitely change hands but it would wind up in the pimps' hands, not the players'.

As opposed to jerk offs like the Steve Alfords and Gene Smiths?

btw - Haden's name is misspelled.

 

[Armchair_QB]

Re: Costly change is coming: Pat Hayden expects NCAA to lose Ed O'bannon suit

Anyone who loves the cesspool that is AAU basketball - and the pimps that control it - will love what major college athletics would become if the worst-case scenario comes true here.

Money would most definitely change hands but it would wind up in the pimps' hands, not the players'.

As opposed to jerk offs like the Steve Alfords and Gene Smiths?

They'll still get paid.

Delany's point about the tax implications of this is interesting too. And, once again, this will do more harm to the people its allegedly supposed to help than it will to the people many want to see hurt.

That said, if I was a president or an athletic director I'd have zero confidence in Mark Emmert's ability to win the day on this.

 

[Armchair_QB]

Re: Costly change is coming: Pat Hayden expects NCAA to lose Ed O'bannon suit

BTW, it's Pat Haden.

 

[LongTimeListener]

Re: Costly change is coming: Pat Hayden expects NCAA to lose Ed O'bannon suit

It would be tremendously awesome to be in the room when Jim Delaney tells Ohio State and Michigan they're going D-III. I'd pay good money for a ticket.

 

[poindexter]

Re: Costly change is coming: Pat Hayden expects NCAA to lose Ed O'bannon suit

They'll still get paid.

Delany's point about the tax implications of this is interesting too. And, once again, this will do more harm to the people its allegedly supposed to help than it will to the people many want to see hurt.

That said, if I was a president or an athletic director I'd have zero confidence in Mark Emmert's ability to win the day on this.

If Big 10 is going to a non-tv, non scholarship model, the Ohio State AD is no longer making $2 mil a year.

And I am not sure what's so tricky about an athlete receiving a W-2, just like a fry cook at McDonald's.

 

[Armchair_QB]

They'll still get paid.

Delany's point about the tax implications of this is interesting too. And, once again, this will do more harm to the people its allegedly supposed to help than it will to the people many want to see hurt.

That said, if I was a president or an athletic director I'd have zero confidence in Mark Emmert's ability to win the day on this.

If Big 10 is going to a non-tv, non scholarship model, the Ohio State AD is no longer making $2 mil a year.

And I am not sure what's so tricky about an athlete receiving a W-2, just like a fry cook at McDonald's.

The Big 10 is not doing that. Delany's full of **** in that regard.

I don't see anything tricky about it either. I think Delany's point is that O'Bannon & Co. are looking at this as free money. But it's not. Uncle Sam always gets paid and the lawyers will take most of it up front.

If you're an athlete the better deal is working additional money into your scholarship, that way it's tax free. Of course if you do that, you're only giving the extra money to football and men's basketball players and that's not going to fly.

 

[Bob Cook]

I thought of this when I saw Victor Oladipo -- in full uniform -- in an Adidas ad in the Indiana student union bookstore.

 

[User 11148]

And I am not sure what's so tricky about an athlete receiving a W-2, just like a fry cook at McDonald's.

Contributions won't be tax deductible.

 

[Armchair_QB]

I thought of this when I saw Victor Oladipo -- in full uniform -- in an Adidas ad in the Indiana student union bookstore.

IU - and every other college that does that - has nobody to blame but themselves if O'Bannon wins. There was a time when colleges were smart enough to prevent themselves from using ads like that. Using kid's likenesses on video games was a stupid idea too.

 

[poindexter]

And I am not sure what's so tricky about an athlete receiving a W-2, just like a fry cook at McDonald's.

Contributions won't be tax deductible.

What contributions?

 

[poindexter]

I don't see anything tricky about it either. I think Delany's point is that O'Bannon & Co. are looking at this as free money. But it's not. Uncle Sam always gets paid and the lawyers will take most of it up front.


Ed O'Bannon's had a 9-5 for a decade. I know he's been a car salesman in the past. I am sure he's familiar with Uncle Sam's taxation.

 

[Bob Cook]

I thought of this when I saw Victor Oladipo -- in full uniform -- in an Adidas ad in the Indiana student union bookstore.

IU - and every other college that does that - has nobody to blame but themselves if O'Bannon wins. There was a time when colleges were smart enough to prevent themselves from using ads like that. Using kid's likenesses on video games was a stupid idea too.

I wrote a story a number of years back about college students who were making $20,000 a year from people sending their PlayStation 2 removable disks (or whatever they were called) so their NCAA games could have players' names instead of "RB #45" or whatever. I mean, it's abundantly clear in these games that everything is modeled after the real players.

 

[poindexter]

I thought of this when I saw Victor Oladipo -- in full uniform -- in an Adidas ad in the Indiana student union bookstore.

IU - and every other college that does that - has nobody to blame but themselves if O'Bannon wins. There was a time when colleges were smart enough to prevent themselves from using ads like that. Using kid's likenesses on video games was a stupid idea too.

Totally agree. O'Bannon got pissed when his nephew/relative was playing a video game and O'Bannon saw his own likeness.

Good luck to the plaintiffs. I am with them.

 

[LongTimeListener]

O'Bannon has always sounded like a guy who is doing this not because he needs the money but because he sees how ****ing wrong it all is. He very well could change the structure of sports as much as Curt Flood.

 

[Armchair_QB]

O'Bannon has always sounded like a guy who is doing this not because he needs the money but because he sees how ****ing wrong it all is. He very well could change the structure of sports as much as Curt Flood.

Yeah, it was really cool the way Curt Flood destroyed Major League Baseball. I don't know how we've managed as a country without it...

 

[LongTimeListener]

O'Bannon has always sounded like a guy who is doing this not because he needs the money but because he sees how ****ing wrong it all is. He very well could change the structure of sports as much as Curt Flood.

Yeah, it was really cool the way Curt Flood destroyed Major League Baseball. I don't know how we've managed as a country without it...

If you are really arguing that the Curt Flood case didn't change the structure of the sports world, I would suggest you limit all future comments on the board to on-field matters involving college football. In every other avenue, you show yourself as a babbling idiot.

 

[Michael_ Gee]

It's unlikely O'Bannon's case would fundamentally alter the structure of college sports. Paying the athletes off the top of the revenues generated from unauthorized licensing of their names or images wouldn't disrupt the economic fundamentals, just give athletes in football and basketball some money and give schools a little less money. But I'll bet teams yanks names off their uniforms very quickly if O'Bannon wins. The intellectual property status of a uniform number should make for some interesting case law.
If college sports administrators weren't so damn greedy, they'd have already done the above on their own hook.
It's government (and parent) concerns about football health risks that threaten the current system, not merchandising issues.