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The Good Doctor said:
Ah, I see the tinfoil-hat brigade is out in full force tonight.

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And before you know it, they'll start a "evolution is just a theory" thread.
 
Yawn,

Even if we presume global warming is a myth, isn't the underlying motivation behind preventing it inherently better than the underlying motivation behind not preventing it?
 
Alma said:
Yawn,

Even if we presume global warming is a myth, isn't the underlying motivation behind preventing it inherently better than the underlying motivation behind not preventing it?

How dare you sully this argument with logic!
 
Alma said:
Yawn,

Even if we presume global warming is a myth, isn't the underlying motivation behind preventing it inherently better than the underlying motivation behind not preventing it?

Alma, even if we presume Christianity is a myth, isn't the underlying motivation behind it -- love your neighbor as yourself and do unto others -- inherently better than the underlying motivation of the crowd who spends all of their time trying to stamp it out of our lives?

See how easy that is.......
 
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zagoshe said:
Alma said:
Yawn,

Even if we presume global warming is a myth, isn't the underlying motivation behind preventing it inherently better than the underlying motivation behind not preventing it?

Alma, even if we presume Christianity is a myth, isn't the underlying motivation behind it -- love your neighbor as yourself and do unto others -- inherently better than the underlying motivation of the crowd who spends all of their time trying to stamp it out of our lives?

See how easy that is.......
That depends on whether you truly define the underlying role of Christianity as "love thy neighbor." It also depends on what you define as the underlying role of those that "want to stamp it out."
 
zagoshe said:
Alma said:
Yawn,

Even if we presume global warming is a myth, isn't the underlying motivation behind preventing it inherently better than the underlying motivation behind not preventing it?

Alma, even if we presume Christianity is a myth, isn't the underlying motivation behind it -- love your neighbor as yourself and do unto others -- inherently better than the underlying motivation of the crowd who spends all of their time trying to stamp it out of our lives?

See how easy that is.......

I'm all for love thy neighbor, and if it were actually practiced, then I'd have no problem. But far too many people who call themselves Christians don't practice that. Intolerance and judgement take the place of compassion, understanding and forgiveness.

So your argument, while sensible in a perfect world, doesn't apply in Christianity on far too many occasions.
 
zagoshe said:
Alma said:
Yawn,

Even if we presume global warming is a myth, isn't the underlying motivation behind preventing it inherently better than the underlying motivation behind not preventing it?

Alma, even if we presume Christianity is a myth, isn't the underlying motivation behind it -- love your neighbor as yourself and do unto others -- inherently better than the underlying motivation of the crowd who spends all of their time trying to stamp it out of our lives?

Um, well, yes.

I'm a Christian, you know. Was that meant to burn me?

As a Christian, don't you think limiting the abuse of the earth - how limited you think your or anyone's abuse is - is part of being a good steward of what you're given. Shouldn't a Christian err on the side of the possibility of global warming, rather than spending time defending car manufacturers and coal factories?
 
zag,

One other thing: If you're a Christian and you live under the delusion that you should pursue your faith without criticism or challenges - if you actually believe there'll ever be a day (or that there should be a day) when people aren't trying to stomp out Christianity - you need to read your Bible a little more.
 
YES!!!

I knew I could pull the religious bigots out of the woodwork....

Thanks Pastor and AlleyAllen, you've never let me down on this one!!

Yes!!!

And if you read what I said AlleyAllen I said "underlying motivation" not "as practiced in America" mr. intolerance.
 
zagoshe said:
YES!!!

I knew I could pull the religious bigots out of the woodwork....

Thanks Pastor and AlleyAllen, you've never let me down on this one!!

Yes!!!

And if you read what I said AlleyAllen I said "underlying motivation" not "as practiced in America" mr. intolerance.
Answer the question. Of course, the other option is to scream "religious bigot" without actually, you know, having evidence to back it up...
 
Pastor said:
zagoshe said:
Alma said:
Yawn,

Even if we presume global warming is a myth, isn't the underlying motivation behind preventing it inherently better than the underlying motivation behind not preventing it?

Alma, even if we presume Christianity is a myth, isn't the underlying motivation behind it -- love your neighbor as yourself and do unto others -- inherently better than the underlying motivation of the crowd who spends all of their time trying to stamp it out of our lives?

See how easy that is.......
That depends on whether you truly define the underlying role of Christianity as "love thy neighbor." It also depends on what you define as the underlying role of those that "want to stamp it out."



I'll be happy to answer any question you have -- but you didn't ask me one, at least not in this post.
 
zagoshe said:
Pastor said:
zagoshe said:
Alma said:
Yawn,

Even if we presume global warming is a myth, isn't the underlying motivation behind preventing it inherently better than the underlying motivation behind not preventing it?

Alma, even if we presume Christianity is a myth, isn't the underlying motivation behind it -- love your neighbor as yourself and do unto others -- inherently better than the underlying motivation of the crowd who spends all of their time trying to stamp it out of our lives?

See how easy that is.......
That depends on whether you truly define the underlying role of Christianity as "love thy neighbor." It also depends on what you define as the underlying role of those that "want to stamp it out."



I'll be happy to answer any question you have -- but you didn't ask me one, at least not in this post.


Stamp it out. That pretty much defines any post I've seen made on the subject by the person who identifies himself as Pastor. (Sorry, but that's a title of respect given to people who are actually in that vocation.)
 
Alma said:
Yawn,

Even if we presume global warming is a myth, isn't the underlying motivation behind preventing it inherently better than the underlying motivation behind not preventing it?

I think zags response to this queston nailed it.
 
Alma said:
zagoshe said:
Alma said:
Yawn,

Even if we presume global warming is a myth, isn't the underlying motivation behind preventing it inherently better than the underlying motivation behind not preventing it?

Alma, even if we presume Christianity is a myth, isn't the underlying motivation behind it -- love your neighbor as yourself and do unto others -- inherently better than the underlying motivation of the crowd who spends all of their time trying to stamp it out of our lives?

Um, well, yes.

I'm a Christian, you know. Was that meant to burn me?

As a Christian, don't you think limiting the abuse of the earth - how limited you think your or anyone's abuse is - is part of being a good steward of what you're given. Shouldn't a Christian err on the side of the possibility of global warming, rather than spending time defending car manufacturers and coal factories?
To me, it wasn't aimed at you specifically - just to raise the contrast of arguments.
 
Alma said:
zag,

One other thing: If you're a Christian and you live under the delusion that you should pursue your faith without criticism or challenges - if you actually believe there'll ever be a day (or that there should be a day) when people aren't trying to stomp out Christianity - you need to read your Bible a little more.

He didn't say there wouldn't be that. He just doesn't have to appreciate its existence.
 
zagoshe said:
Pastor said:
zagoshe said:
Alma said:
Yawn,

Even if we presume global warming is a myth, isn't the underlying motivation behind preventing it inherently better than the underlying motivation behind not preventing it?

Alma, even if we presume Christianity is a myth, isn't the underlying motivation behind it -- love your neighbor as yourself and do unto others -- inherently better than the underlying motivation of the crowd who spends all of their time trying to stamp it out of our lives?

See how easy that is.......
That depends on whether you truly define the underlying role of Christianity as "love thy neighbor." It also depends on what you define as the underlying role of those that "want to stamp it out."



I'll be happy to answer any question you have -- but you didn't ask me one, at least not in this post.

Exactly. You avoided answering it in the previous post.

Pastor said:
zagoshe said:
Alma said:
Yawn,

Even if we presume global warming is a myth, isn't the underlying motivation behind preventing it inherently better than the underlying motivation behind not preventing it?

Alma, even if we presume Christianity is a myth, isn't the underlying motivation behind it -- love your neighbor as yourself and do unto others -- inherently better than the underlying motivation of the crowd who spends all of their time trying to stamp it out of our lives?

See how easy that is.......
That depends on whether you truly define the underlying role of Christianity as "love thy neighbor." It also depends on what you define as the underlying role of those that "want to stamp it out."

So, how do you define those terms? How is it that you came to the definition what Christianity's underlying role is?
 
Yawn said:
Alma said:
zag,

One other thing: If you're a Christian and you live under the delusion that you should pursue your faith without criticism or challenges - if you actually believe there'll ever be a day (or that there should be a day) when people aren't trying to stomp out Christianity - you need to read your Bible a little more.

He didn't say there wouldn't be that. He just doesn't have to appreciate its existence.

He should.

Romans 5:3-4:

"Nt only so, but we also rejoice in our sufferings, because we know that suffering produces perseverance; perseverance, character; and character, hope."
 
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