Canadian teen in viral anti-bullying video commits suicide

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http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/10/12/canadian-teen-in-viral-anti-bullying-video-commits-suicide/

This story is close to my heart. My daughter tried to commit suicide because she was bullied.

Such a sad story. The self-made video brought a tear to my eye.

RIP Amanda Todd
 
I know not everyone believes in God. But I don't see how anyone can read and watch that and not at least think there is evil in the world. Crying here too.
 
dixiehack said:
I know not everyone believes in God. But I don't see how anyone can read and watch that and not at least think there is evil in the world. Crying here too.
not going theological here but evil exists, fact. God however is merely a theory, which is disproved by the existence of evil.
 
I don't follow this.

The existence of evil disproves God? Does someone argue that evil doesn't exist? Or shouldn't?

Never heard that before.

RIP.
 
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heyabbott said:
dixiehack said:
I know not everyone believes in God. But I don't see how anyone can read and watch that and not at least think there is evil in the world. Crying here too.
not going theological here but evil exists, fact. God however is merely a theory, which is disproved by the existence of evil.

One of the more misguided arguments I've heard. Evil does not disprove god's existence. It is merely the otherside of the coin. There cannot be good without there being evil. God never promises a world without evil, in fact over and over the Bible describes how the world is filled with evil and offers a way to live your life in the face of that evil, to be a positive, loving force. God doesn't even guarantee an easy path for his believers, in fact all but guarantees a hard road ahead. For believers, the payoff is in the afterlife.

I'm not trying to convert you or anything, or saying you must believe in God, or even that you must agree with what's in the Bible or the life that is laid out there. You either choose to believe or you don't. That's your choice and I won't think differently about you regardless of that choice, and frankly I don't really care. But to say that because there is evil in the world it disproves God is not an argument that works.
 
I'll go along with the tangent, because frankly the story just made me and Ms. Ragu cry.

I have my theory about the world. I think there is a total ying-yang thing that ties together everything. Just as in Newton's physics, for every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction, I have guessed that our world is built around that as a common principle. The opposing actions might not be directly traceable to each other in ways that we are capable of comprehending, but they exist nonetheless in a way that ties together nicely if you have a bird's eye view of the big picture. We just don't.

You can apply it to anything. If there is good, there is evil. If there is happiness, there is sadness. If there are winners, there are losers. And so on.

It makes perfect sense to me, too, because while some people say "What kind of god would allow. .." (and I am completely agnostic, so I really don't think that way), I think that we can't experience life without the things we find difficult, in addition to the joys. How can you truly understand what happiness is, unless you know sadness? How can you recognize the extraordinary, if you haven't known mediocrity.

I know my theory isn't that novel. People have come up with that kind of cosmic guess before me and have fleshed it out to varying degrees. But it is something I have thought a lot about.
 
People are ****ed up. I hope they find the mother****er who was bullying and stalking this chick and beat the **** out of him with bully clubs. Then read him his rights as they feed him jello through a straw for the rest of his life.

I'm so tired of ****ing assholes.

I was watching the news the other day here and there was a story of some 15-year old thug who cold cocked a teacher and knocked him out and the reason he said was "I had a bad day"

What a ****head. Kill his ass, too.
 
zagoshe said:
What a ****head. Kill his ass, too.

Kill a 15-year-old for punching someone. Maybe we should kill you for suggesting something that disgusting.
 
Horrible attempt on my part. But it's time to start drinking.

Regarding the story, this **** is sickening on every level. It seems shallow to call this bullying, though I know the word has been re-stigmatized. It's blackmail and sexual harassment and abuse.
 
You think?

I've been drinking for a good part of the night and I did not get the gist of your attempt.

I agree with you on the story.
 
The Big Ragu said:
I'll go along with the tangent, because frankly the story just made me and Ms. Ragu cry.

I have my theory about the world. I think there is a total ying-yang thing that ties together everything. Just as in Newton's physics, for every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction, I have guessed that our world is built around that as a common principle. The opposing actions might not be directly traceable to each other in ways that we are capable of comprehending, but they exist nonetheless in a way that ties together nicely if you have a bird's eye view of the big picture. We just don't.

You can apply it to anything. If there is good, there is evil. If there is happiness, there is sadness. If there are winners, there are losers. And so on.

It makes perfect sense to me, too, because while some people say "What kind of god would allow. .." (and I am completely agnostic, so I really don't think that way), I think that we can't experience life without the things we find difficult, in addition to the joys. How can you truly understand what happiness is, unless you know sadness? How can you recognize the extraordinary, if you haven't known mediocrity.

I know my theory isn't that novel. People have come up with that kind of cosmic guess before me and have fleshed it out to varying degrees. But it is something I have thought a lot about.

I really can't argue with this line of thinking. Most religions and belief systems have some kind of similar built in good vs evil structure. What sent me off on the tangent was that evil disproves the existence of god. But what about the good In our world, and you put it quite poinegntly, how would we know or appreciate good without knowing evil.

And this sumbitch who stalked her falls into the evil category. This story sucks on so many levels. I was bullied into oblivion growing up -- although nothing quite as ****ed up as what she went through, thank god my childhood was pre social media -- and I lost a sister to suicide. This is totally heart breaking.
 
This story has been getting a lot of attention in Canada. I saw her video on the news and was absolutely devestated.

I have a 15 year old stepdaughter that I think of as my own. Many of her friends on Facebook also friended me when they first got their accounts a few years ago so I see some of the **** that gets posted.

One of her friends who posted her thoughts on the suicide actually had other teens posting that the girl should not have flashed and brought this on herself, just unbelievable stuff.

I don't think teenagers today are any worse than when I was a teenager but there sure are a lot more avenues to exhibit ****ty behavior.
 

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