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Indiana athletic director resigns in wake of new NCAA allegation.

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaab/news;_ylt=Am5nHlTjYSSImmZ7BlmYzLQ5nYcB?slug=ap-indiana-greenspan&prov=ap&type=lgns

When I read the story on the wire at work, the first thing that entered my mind was, "I wonder how long it will take for the dimmer bulbs in IU's fanbase to suggest Bob Knight as AD."

Went to IU's message board and it was the first thread on the list.
 
Dim bulbs fanbois are everywhere.
Substitute Jimmy Johns for Greenspan and "Not one of Saban's recruits" for Knight and it was reading the Bammer boards yesterday...
 
slappy4428 said:
Dim bulbs fanbois are everywhere.
Substitute Jimmy Johns for Greenspan and "Not one of Saban's recruits" for Knight and it was reading the Bammer boards yesterday...

Well yeah, but IU's are fun to make fun of. :D
 
You won't find Bob Knight texting messages and yapping to recruits at all hours on his cell phone, all I'm saying.
 
Bubbler said:
slappy4428 said:
Dim bulbs fanbois are everywhere.
Substitute Jimmy Johns for Greenspan and "Not one of Saban's recruits" for Knight and it was reading the Bammer boards yesterday...

Well yeah, but IU's are fun to make fun of. :D
Bammers are like clay pigeons...
 
As an IU fan/alum, I'm ready to accept a year's postseason ban. It's completely deserved for the level of ignorance and arrogance the athletic dept has showed the entire way, and in getting it the NCAA can pat itself on the back for being tough while IU fields a 10-win team that isn't going anywhere anyway.
 
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I'll bet those 15-16 seasons are looking pretty good right now to the sizable segment of IU fans who couldn't get out of their own way to put a knife in Mike Davis' back, followed by an equal willingness to turn a blind eye to the obvious when Sampson was hired.
 
That segment of the IU fanbase can't be helped. Completely delusional. My father-in-law has his moments crossing over to that group...this entire time with Sampson he thinks the media caused the problem and that, hey, it's only phone calls.
 
Bad couple of months to be an AD in the state of Indiana. Anybody know what the deal was with Kevin White bailing out of Notre Dame for Duke? Was that for the Weis extension?
 
What's this going to be now, the fifth AD in eight years? The biggest problem with IU athletics isn't a coach -- it's that there's been no leadership at all for almost a decade.
 
DanOregon said:
Bad couple of months to be an AD in the state of Indiana. Anybody know what the deal was with Kevin White bailing out of Notre Dame for Duke? Was that for the Weis extension?

Backtrack a little more. The board went around Kevin White and fired Ty Willingham. At that point, White probably started looking. That Duke was fortunate to get him - and not have to fire Joe Alleva, a worthless AD if there ever was one - was a serious stroke of good luck.
 
No shocker at all in reference to Greenspan. He knew the baggage Kelvin Sampson was carrying, yet hired him anyway. Turned a blind eye to what Sampson did in Bloomington.

It could be spun that it's a wonder Greenspan didn't get tossed out when Sampson did.
 
And Greenspan was supposed to bring a little bit of stability to IU's athletic program after a long term of turmoil, at least until president Adam Herbert hired Kelvin Sampson for him and Greenspan then had to spend two years keep covering Sampson's @$$ ... something he mishandled pretty badly this fall & winter.

Greenspan won't get the credit for it, but some big things happened under his watch -- some much-needed facility upgrades (closing in the north end of Memorial Stadium with a football office/weights facility underneath a new tier of seats, a basketball practice facility, renovations to the bb & sb diamonds, which were hardly high-school quality). While it didn't work out due to circumstances beyond everyone's control, he hired Terry ***ppner, the single-best athletic department hire IU has made since bringing in Bob Knight and promoting Jerry Yeagley's soccer program to varsity status in the early 1970s.

Greenspan made two huge mistakes besides the handling of the Sampson fiasco. He hired Sharon Versyp for wbb (initially a good hire) and didn't give her a buyout clause, allowing her to walk away to arch-rival Purdue for nothing one year later, and then passing on Kevin Borseth to pick Felicia Leggette-Jack to replace Versyp. L-J has done a nice job, but Borseth is a helluva coach and was much more of a known commodity at the time (but he had something against him -- a Y chromosome attempting to coach major-college women's basketball). His hire of Tracy Smith to take over the baseball team has also been pretty widely-praised.

IU's athletic departnment has been a wreck ever since Ralph Floyd passed away 20 years ago. Knight toadie Clarence Doninger was ineffective at best (he almost never fired even an incompetent coach -- but let Myles Brand can Bill Mallory -- the facilities didn't get much better, he eventually turned on Knight), Michael McNeeley was a disaster (two words say it all -- Gerry DiNardo), and a university VP ended up being interim AD for more than a year before Greenspan was hired. A lot of the people charged for compliance, for example, came aboard during the Doninger years, when incompetence was rampant.

Not coincidentally, the slide also seemed to coincide with Myles Brand's hiring. To call him a spotlight-seeking attention hound would be putting it nicely.
 
This will be a good job for a MAC or high-level I-AA guy who doesn't mind a little hoops probation.

And if I'm Bill Lynch, I'm talking extension the day the guy gets there.
 
The athletic dept leadership has certainly been lacking, but IU has also whiffed horribly on presidents for too damn long. Herbert was/is a joke, he's still a professor at IU but his only comments on the Sampson affair have been to an out-of-state paper (I forget which). It's not like in-state media didn't try to reach him -- the moron sat in the front row for every IU home basketball game. The lack of accountability from the very top on down is a joke.

You're right, crimsonace, IU did need a lot of upgrades to a lot of things...but more seats in Memorial Stadium wasn't one of them.
 
playthrough said:
You're right, crimsonace, IU did need a lot of upgrades to a lot of things...but more seats in Memorial Stadium wasn't one of them.

The seats aren't the issue ... what's under the seats, however, is. There is a large workout/office facility for the football program that is likely to be on par with the new basketball facility in terms of quality. The fact that they're putting seats above them is a bonus. Besides, it can pay for itself every time Ohio State comes to visit.

Creating a horseshoe allows for the football stadium to not look so much like a high school stadium on TV, too.
 
I know IU football needed the infrastructure; we both have done our share of interviews in the old cave under the east stands. But adding seats in a stadium with 10k empty ones on most Saturdays, even if it was a throw-in on top of new offices, is laughable.
 

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