BP - Absolute Worst Public Relations Savvy in History of Human Enterprise

[Brooklyn Bridge]

The biggest PR blunder of the whole thing was that we are two months in and only now did they appoint an American to talk to the press. Would have saved them a lot of headaches to have a Yank on board early on.

 

[fishhack2009]

A "fire-breather"? Like Slush or Dreck? Talk about low hurdles.

CW's always been right of center. So was daddy, and the apple
didn't fall that far from the tree. It's a wonder it took FOX so long
to snap him up.

Wallace was raised by his step-father & didn't have much of a relationship with his father until he was an adult.

And does anybody want to guess what topic has received a lot of attention on Rush today?

Answer: Obama's leisure time.

Spud Webb just came out of retirement to swat that particular piece of silliness into the stands.

Really, YF: When is Rush not the topic du jour on the Flatulence in Broadcasting Network?

Rush ain't exactly a good barometer of what normal Americans are thinking.

Fail.

 

[Flying Headbutt]

Fact of the matter is YF is going to take his shots at Obama every chance he gets. And no matter how false and misguided the analogies he wants to make are, he's going to try to make some of you argue against them, whether there is legitimacy or not. If you want to play the game, fine. There are times he's well-meaning and all, but when an issue even drifts near the political sphere, his default mode is find a way to criticize Obama and then come up with some nonsense to argue over. Later he'll have Joe Barton apologize.

A "fire-breather"? Like Slush or Dreck? Talk about low hurdles.

CW's always been right of center. So was daddy, and the apple
didn't fall that far from the tree. It's a wonder it took FOX so long
to snap him up.

Wallace was raised by his step-father & didn't have much of a relationship with his father until he was an adult.

And does anybody want to guess what topic has received a lot of attention on Rush today?

Answer: Obama's leisure time.

No politics.

If you don't like it you don't have to look at the thread, or the board in general. You do have that much self-control, right?

 

[Pastor]

Obama hasn’t run a flawless administration. He certainly didn’t run a flawless campaign, so I’m not sure why anyone would think he’d function perfectly after getting the job.

Regardless of this, there is quite a difference between each leisure activity. In order for Obama to go golfing, he probably had the motorcade setup by others a day or so before hand. Then, he shoots out, hits his 18 holes and is on his way back.

For the BP guy, he had to board a private plan and then get there to either take part or just watch.

Then there is also the fact that the activity the guy was enjoying involved water. Golfing, while it may have a water hazard, doesn’t require big areas of clean water which Hayward has actively played a part in ruining.

I’m really failing to understand the comparison between the two.

 

[YankeeFan]

I've said consistently that the President of the United States - be it George Bush, Barack Obama or anyone else who occupies the White House - is NEVER on vacation. Anyone who opines otherwise is just looking to score cheap political points.

That said, it is a PR blunder of epic proportions for Obama to send his pet attack thug out to rip the BP CEO for his leisure time activities the same weekend Obama is off playing golf somewhere.

For a guy who is portrayed as a genius Obama's got some pretty stupid ****ing people advising him on PR matters.

And that's all I was trying to say.

I don't begrudge Obama for playing golf. I don't expect him to physically plug the hole. And I know he's never off the clock.

But Rahm should have held off so that Obama doesn't come under the same scrutiny as Hayward.

 

[The Big Ragu]

The president isn't under the same scrutiny as the BP CEO, except by a bunch of politically-motivated morons grasping at straws. There is legit criticism and then there is this.

The president isn't the CEO of a company that has caused the biggest environmental disaster in history, made a bunch of clueless and tone deaf remarks since and was out yachting in public with his Rolls Royce baseball cap, while his oil well polluted another body of water across the ocean.

The president has nothing to do with that CEO.

And Armchair, that is a ridiculous standard. Obama isn't snoozing on the job, by any account. He was out playing golf for a few hours. He's human. The only reason not to play golf ever is for some perception reason. There is no perception issue for him, as hard as this strained attempt to create one, is. It's not HIS oil well. Using your standard, until he has solved every perceived problem in the world he should be sitting chained to a desk 24/7.

 

[Armchair_QB]

The president isn't under the same scrutiny as the BP CEO, except by a bunch of politically-motivated morons grasping at straws. There is legit criticism and then there is this.

The president isn't the CEO of a company that has caused the biggest environmental disaster in history, made a bunch of clueless and tone deaf remarks since and was out yachting in public with his Rolls Royce baseball cap, while his oil well polluted another body of water across the ocean.

The president has nothing to do with that CEO.

And Armchair, that is a ridiculous standard. Obama isn't snoozing on the job, by any account. He was out playing golf for a few hours. He's human. The only reason not to play golf ever is for some perception reason. There is no perception issue for him, as hard as this strained attempt to create one, is. It's not HIS oil well. Using your standard, until he has solved every perceived problem in the world he should be sitting chained to a desk 24/7.

Umm... I never ****ing said he was snoozing on the job. There's nothing wrong with playing golf.

As I ****ing pointed out at the top, it's not like he's on vacation because no president is ever on vacation.

But if you're going to do it in the middle of a situation where you have repeatedly said you are "in charge" it's a poor PR move to send your pet attack thug out to rip the CEO for not doing his job. If his lackeys had half a brain they would have advised him to keep Rahm chained up down in the basement for a few more days.

That hole is stil going to be spewing oil next week he could have attacked the CEO next weekend.

 

[Care Bear]

Armchair is absolutely right. Nothing wrong with Obama playing golf. Just bad PR.

 

[The Big Ragu]

I must have misunderstood, Armchair. I took a post in which the first paragraph said "the president is NEVER on vacation," your emphasis on never, followed by a paragraph saying that this was a PR blunder because Rahm Emmanuel (who really no one gives a **** about) was on Sunday morning TV taking shots at the world's easiest target (the BP CEO) while Obama played golf. ... to mean you were criticizing Obama for being on vacation and playing golf, because he needs to be working harder dammit! What exactly was the purpose of the first paragraph connected to what you just said was the point just now when you clarified? In your zeal to find some sort of criticism did you mix up the points in your mind?