Baseball HOF: Who makes it in addition to Ripken and Gwynn?

[cranberry]

In addition to Gwynn and Ripken, I'd like to see Gossage, Rice, Concepcion and Dawson get in.

 

[Michael_ Gee]

I honestly think Rice could make it this year as an anti-steroid candidate. Christ, if he'd used drugs to bulk up his muscles, Rice might've hit 1200-foot homers on a regular basis in 1976-80.
I voted for McGwire (that's another thread). Of the non-controversial candidates, I also voted for Rice, Gossage, Morris, and Blyleven. But I usually pick more guys than my electoral peers.

 

[kingcreole]

I hope Goose Gossage gets in, but I think he's going to fall just short before getting in next year.

Will be very interesting to see if the McGwire backlash helps out Jim Rice.

Jack Morris and Bert Blyleven won't get in. Still wrong.

Since Sutter is in, Gossage should also be in since Goose was better.

Had Blyleven played in New York, he'd have been a first-ballot person. He should also be in.

 

[spnited]

I'm pretty sure Casty is going to stay out of this debate for now because too many assholes will give his abuse for being pompous and say he should have his vote taken away after he gives a perfectly logical argument for voting or not voting for certain players.
It's how this board is sinking...the assholes are taking over and some good people are just staying away from the bull****.

Meanwhile, Gee, you voted for too many guys. You should have your vote taken away. ;D

 

[casty33]

Sorry for avoiding this but spnited is right about one thing. I'm sure by posting, someone out there will call me pompous for bragging about having a vote. I don't brag, there's nothing to brag about. But I do have a vote and it went to Ripken, Gwynn and Gossage, who I have supported for as many years as he has been on the ballot. I was very close on Rice but didn't check the box, primarily since I haven't done so for the last dozen years. Sorry.

 

[Flying Headbutt]

For crying out loud, casty! Umm, I guess someone had to say it, right?

That's the three I'd have voted for, too. I think Gossage should have been in a long time ago. But I think only Cal and Gwynn get in this year. Then it'll be a celebration about two guys who played for 20 years in the same city, remind baseball fans of all the purity and what was and suh, and pretty much turn Cooperstown into a sugary sweet little Catskill town of maple syrup wholesome goodness. Someone pass the Life cereal and the Ovaltine. And then buy the world a coke so we can all wash it down.

 

[GB-Hack]

Always interesting to hear what a voter has to say. Thanks a lot for posting.

 

[zeke12]

casty --

Time for my yearly plea to induct Bert Blyleven.

In the interest of brevity, I will plagiarize the simple case made by Rich Lederer at baseballanalysts.com:

Since 1900, Bert Blyleven ranks 5th in career strikeouts, 8th in shutouts, and 17th in wins.

That's it. He should be in.

 

[Freelance Hack]

If Gossage gets in, will he celebrate by eating McDonalds?

 

[kingcreole]

casty --

Time for my yearly plea to induct Bert Blyleven.

In the interest of brevity, I will plagiarize the simple case made by Rich Lederer at baseballanalysts.com:

Since 1900, Bert Blyleven ranks 5th in career strikeouts, 8th in shutouts, and 17th in wins.

That's it. He should be in.

He didn't play in New Yawk/Bawston. Thus, he's no HOF'er.

There should be absolutely no argument on Blyleven. None. He's a HOF'er. end of story.

 

[zeke12]

casty --

Time for my yearly plea to induct Bert Blyleven.

In the interest of brevity, I will plagiarize the simple case made by Rich Lederer at baseballanalysts.com:

Since 1900, Bert Blyleven ranks 5th in career strikeouts, 8th in shutouts, and 17th in wins.

That's it. He should be in.

He didn't play in New Yawk/Bawston. Thus, he's no HOF'er.

There should be absolutely no argument on Blyleven. None. He's a HOF'er. end of story.

The other players in the top 20 in those categories, BTW:

Steve Carlton 6th 4th 13th
Ferguson Jenkins 19th 11th 17th
Walter Johnson 1st 9th 1st
Gaylord Perry 12th 8th 14th
Nolan Ryan 8th 1st 6th
Tom Seaver 13th 6th 6th
Don Sutton 8th 7th 9th

I don't have to tell you what they all have in common...

 

[Fenian_Bastard]

casty --

Time for my yearly plea to induct Bert Blyleven.

In the interest of brevity, I will plagiarize the simple case made by Rich Lederer at baseballanalysts.com:

Since 1900, Bert Blyleven ranks 5th in career strikeouts, 8th in shutouts, and 17th in wins.

That's it. He should be in.

He didn't play in New Yawk/Bawston. Thus, he's no HOF'er.

There should be absolutely no argument on Blyleven. None. He's a HOF'er. end of story.

The other players in the top 20 in those categories, BTW:

Steve Carlton 6th 4th 13th
Ferguson Jenkins 19th 11th 17th
Walter Johnson 1st 9th 1st
Gaylord Perry 12th 8th 14th
Nolan Ryan 8th 1st 6th
Tom Seaver 13th 6th 6th
Don Sutton 8th 7th 9th

I don't have to tell you what they all have in common...

They all smoked a lot of dope?

 

[Flying Headbutt]

They all had bad haircuts?

 

[D-3 Fan]

Sorry for avoiding this but spnited is right about one thing. I'm sure by posting, someone out there will call me pompous for bragging about having a vote. I don't brag, there's nothing to brag about. But I do have a vote and it went to Ripken, Gwynn and Gossage, who I have supported for as many years as he has been on the ballot. I was very close on Rice but didn't check the box, primarily since I haven't done so for the last dozen years. Sorry.

casty, it's quite alright and you had every reason to avoid commenting on this thread. I think it's insightful to read what an actual voter thinks about before making his/her HOF selection.

That's being honest, if you ask me. Thank you!

 

[zeke12]

Fenian --

The Big Train knew his way around a steamroller, if you know what I'm sayin...

 

[patchs]

Here it is..
2007 BBWAA Hall of Fame Voting Results
Candidate

Votes
% of Votes
Cal Ripken Jr. 537 98.5
Tony Gwynn 532 97.6
Rich Gossage 388 71.2
Jim Rice 346 63.5
Andre Dawson 309 56.7
Bert Blyleven 260 47.7
Lee Smith 217 39.8
Jack Morris 202 37.1
Mark McGwire 128 23.5
Tommy John 125 22.9
*Steve Garvey 115 21.1
Dave Concepcion 74 13.6
Alan Trammell 73 13.4
Dave Parker 62 11.4
Don Mattingly 54 9.9
Dale Murphy 50 9.2
Harold Baines 29 5.3
Orel Hershiser 24 4.4
Albert Belle 19 3.5
Paul O'Neill 12 2.2
Bret Saberhagen 7 1.3
Jose Canseco 6 1.1
Tony Fernandez 4 0.7
Dante Bichette 3 0.6
Eric Davis 3 0.6
Bobby Bonilla 2 0.4
Ken Caminiti 2 0.4
Jay Buhner 1 0.2
Scott Brosius 0 0.0
Wally Joyner 0 0.0
Devon White 0 0.0
Bobby Witt 0 0.0

 

[D-3 Fan]

Thanks patchs for the breakdown! This is a dumb rookie question out of me: has anyone received 100% of the votes ever in the HOF?

 

[PhilaYank36]

It's a bloody shame that Gossage JUST missed. I also feel that Tommy John and Canseco should also get in, not only for their stats, but also what they contributed beyond the playing field. Hell, both of their careers got a little extra help. B/c of John and Dr. Frank Jobe, countless of pitchers went on to be come All-Stars and a couple of future HOFers. Canseco, as slimy as he comes off, used what little of the balls he has left to blow the whistle on MLB's steroid problem. Doesn't that carry some merit?

 

[zeke12]

D-3 -- No.

Blyleven lost ground. That's terrible.

He and Gossage should be in immediatley.

 

[patchs]

Thanks patchs for the breakdown! This is a dumb rookie question out of me: has anyone received 100% of the votes ever in the HOF?

COOPERSTOWN, NY: Cal Ripken, holder of one of baseball's most cherished records, and Tony Gwynn, among the game's most prolific hitters, were elected to the National Baseball Hall of Fame by the Baseball Writers' Association of America in balloting verified by Ernst & Young. They will be inducted into the Hall July 29 at the Clark Sports Center in Cooperstown, N.Y.

A record 545 ballots, including two blanks, were cast by BBWAA members with 10 or more consecutive years' service, eclipsing by 25 the previous mark of 2006. Players must be named on 75 percent of ballots submitted to gain election. This year, 409 votes were needed.

Ripken established a record by being named on 537 ballots, breaking the previous mark of 491 by Nolan Ryan in 1999. Ripken's percentage of 98.53 percent is the third highest in the history of BBWAA balloting behind Tom Seaver (98.83 in 1992) and Ryan (98.79 in 1999). Gwynn's percentage of 97.6 based on 532 votes ranks seventh all-time. Their election brings to 280 the number of elected members of the Hall. Of that total, 198 are former major leaguers, of which 105 have been through the BBWAA.

Players in bold were elected; players in italics received fewer than 5% support and will be removed from the ballot; players with asterisk were in final year of eligibility by BBWAA voters.