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There was no baseball thread on the first few pages so I figured I'd start one.

I'm curious if anyone is hearing anything about a possible 3 way trade between the Red Sox (Coco Crisp), Orioles (Brian Roberts) and Cubs (prospects). Releasing Doug Mirabelli does open up a roster spot for the Red Sox. The Cubs have both Geovany Soto and Josh Donaldson as young catchers with Soto probably blocking Donaldson for years to come. Donaldson wouldn't be enough for Crisp so the Cubs would have to add another player or two (maybe Matt Murton?).

Opening Day less than a week away.
 
Evil ******* (aka Chris_L) said:
There was no baseball thread on the first few pages so I figured I'd start one.

I'm curious if anyone is hearing anything about a possible 3 way trade between the Red Sox (Coco Crisp), Orioles (Brian Roberts) and Cubs (prospects). Releasing Doug Mirabelli does open up a roster spot for the Red Sox. The Cubs have both Geovany Soto and Josh Donaldson as young catchers with Soto probably blocking Donaldson for years to come. Donaldson wouldn't be enough for Crisp so the Cubs would have to add another player or two (maybe Matt Murton?).

Opening Day less than a week away.

Who would get who in the proposed deal?
 
Angola! said:
Evil ******* (aka Chris_L) said:
There was no baseball thread on the first few pages so I figured I'd start one.

I'm curious if anyone is hearing anything about a possible 3 way trade between the Red Sox (Coco Crisp), Orioles (Brian Roberts) and Cubs (prospects). Releasing Doug Mirabelli does open up a roster spot for the Red Sox. The Cubs have both Geovany Soto and Josh Donaldson as young catchers with Soto probably blocking Donaldson for years to come. Donaldson wouldn't be enough for Crisp so the Cubs would have to add another player or two (maybe Matt Murton?).

Opening Day less than a week away.

Who would get who in the proposed deal?

I'm just tossing this out but the Cubs would get both Roberts and Crisp to fill their 2nd and CF holes.

The Orioles would probably get Sean Gallagher RHP, Tyler Colvin OF and Eric Patterson 2B-OF from the Cubs. Maybe Pie replaces one of those guys but his value seems to be dropping.

The Red Sox maybe get Matt Wieters C from the Orioles. There would be a great symmetry of another Georgia Tech guy being put in place to replace Varitek. Or it could be Donaldson from the Cubs plus a top prospect from the Orioles. The Sox getting Wieters is probably pie in the sky though as the Orioles wouldn't want him haunting them for years to come (although he is a highly paid prospect - $6 mil bonus and trading him could be a cost cutting deal).

I think something's going on and Coco being hurt may be gumming up the works.
 
The Good Doctor said:
Roberts and Crisp to the Cubs for prospects? I'll take it.
Would be a great deal for the Cubs.

Doc, what does the Cubs rotation look like after Zambrano?
 
Kyle Lohse signs with the Cardinals.

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sports/stories.nsf/cardinals/story/ACFA084AAA7A730B8625740B006B79E6?OpenDocument

FWIW - BaseballReference.com has the most similar pitcher through age 28 to Lohse as Jeff Suppan who went 44-26 in 3 seasons in St. Louis after turning 29. Lohse just turned 29 in December.
 
Evil ******* (aka Chris_L) said:
Angola! said:
Evil ******* (aka Chris_L) said:
There was no baseball thread on the first few pages so I figured I'd start one.

I'm curious if anyone is hearing anything about a possible 3 way trade between the Red Sox (Coco Crisp), Orioles (Brian Roberts) and Cubs (prospects). Releasing Doug Mirabelli does open up a roster spot for the Red Sox. The Cubs have both Geovany Soto and Josh Donaldson as young catchers with Soto probably blocking Donaldson for years to come. Donaldson wouldn't be enough for Crisp so the Cubs would have to add another player or two (maybe Matt Murton?).

Opening Day less than a week away.

Who would get who in the proposed deal?

I'm just tossing this out but the Cubs would get both Roberts and Crisp to fill their 2nd and CF holes.

The Orioles would probably get Sean Gallagher RHP, Tyler Colvin OF and Eric Patterson 2B-OF from the Cubs. Maybe Pie replaces one of those guys but his value seems to be dropping.

The Red Sox maybe get Matt Wieters C from the Orioles. There would be a great symmetry of another Georgia Tech guy being put in place to replace Varitek. Or it could be Donaldson from the Cubs plus a top prospect from the Orioles. The Sox getting Wieters is probably pie in the sky though as the Orioles wouldn't want him haunting them for years to come (although he is a highly paid prospect - $6 mil bonus and trading him could be a cost cutting deal).

I think something's going on and Coco being hurt may be gumming up the works.

I can't see the Orioles trading Wieters. I'm not sure Pie's value is really dropping, either. He showed some ability last year and was having a good spring before he got his balls in a twist.
 
Evil ******* (aka Chris_L) said:
Kyle Lohse signs with the Cardinals.

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sports/stories.nsf/cardinals/story/ACFA084AAA7A730B8625740B006B79E6?OpenDocument

FWIW - BaseballReference.com has the most similar pitcher through age 28 to Lohse as Jeff Suppan who went 44-26 in 3 seasons in St. Louis after turning 29. Lohse just turned 29 in December.
There was some talk that the Mets were thinking about making Lohse an offer to be a sixth starter/long reliever.
 
hockeybeat said:
Evil ******* (aka Chris_L) said:
Kyle Lohse signs with the Cardinals.

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sports/stories.nsf/cardinals/story/ACFA084AAA7A730B8625740B006B79E6?OpenDocument

FWIW - BaseballReference.com has the most similar pitcher through age 28 to Lohse as Jeff Suppan who went 44-26 in 3 seasons in St. Louis after turning 29. Lohse just turned 29 in December.
There was some talk that the Mets were thinking about making Lohse an offer to be a sixth starter/long reliever.

How desperate are the Cardinals for pitching?
 
Armchair_QB said:
hockeybeat said:
Evil ******* (aka Chris_L) said:
Kyle Lohse signs with the Cardinals.

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sports/stories.nsf/cardinals/story/ACFA084AAA7A730B8625740B006B79E6?OpenDocument

FWIW - BaseballReference.com has the most similar pitcher through age 28 to Lohse as Jeff Suppan who went 44-26 in 3 seasons in St. Louis after turning 29. Lohse just turned 29 in December.
There was some talk that the Mets were thinking about making Lohse an offer to be a sixth starter/long reliever.

How desperate are the Cardinals for pitching?
Extraordinarily?
 
hockeybeat said:
The Good Doctor said:
Roberts and Crisp to the Cubs for prospects? I'll take it.
Would be a great deal for the Cubs.

Doc, what does the Cubs rotation look like after Zambrano?

1. Zambrano
2. Lilly
3. Dempster (they don't want consecutive lefties)
4. Hill
5. Probably Lieber. Possibly Marquis or Marshall.
 
Is Dempster really a third starter? I know they don't want two lefties together, but still. It does give Hill a better shot at giving the Cubs some more wins.
 
Evil ******* (aka Chris_L) said:
Angola! said:
Evil ******* (aka Chris_L) said:
There was no baseball thread on the first few pages so I figured I'd start one.

I'm curious if anyone is hearing anything about a possible 3 way trade between the Red Sox (Coco Crisp), Orioles (Brian Roberts) and Cubs (prospects). Releasing Doug Mirabelli does open up a roster spot for the Red Sox. The Cubs have both Geovany Soto and Josh Donaldson as young catchers with Soto probably blocking Donaldson for years to come. Donaldson wouldn't be enough for Crisp so the Cubs would have to add another player or two (maybe Matt Murton?).

Opening Day less than a week away.

Who would get who in the proposed deal?

I'm just tossing this out but the Cubs would get both Roberts and Crisp to fill their 2nd and CF holes.

The Orioles would probably get Sean Gallagher RHP, Tyler Colvin OF and Eric Patterson 2B-OF from the Cubs. Maybe Pie replaces one of those guys but his value seems to be dropping.

The Red Sox maybe get Matt Wieters C from the Orioles. There would be a great symmetry of another Georgia Tech guy being put in place to replace Varitek. Or it could be Donaldson from the Cubs plus a top prospect from the Orioles. The Sox getting Wieters is probably pie in the sky though as the Orioles wouldn't want him haunting them for years to come (although he is a highly paid prospect - $6 mil bonus and trading him could be a cost cutting deal).

I think something's going on and Coco being hurt may be gumming up the works.

As a 2007 draftee, Wieters can't be traded until Aug. 15, the year anniversary of his signing.
 
I was going to say something disparaging about Dempster, but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt for now.

I expect to be hating him by April 20.
 
The O's will keep Wieters, if only to make the Pirates look dumber -- if that's possible -- for drafting Danny Moskos the pick before.
 
The Good Doctor said:
hockeybeat said:
The Good Doctor said:
Roberts and Crisp to the Cubs for prospects? I'll take it.
Would be a great deal for the Cubs.

Doc, what does the Cubs rotation look like after Zambrano?

1. Zambrano
2. Lilly
3. Dempster (they don't want consecutive lefties)
4. Hill
5. Probably Lieber. Possibly Marquis or Marshall.

That rotation sucks.
 
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