Banning the 3 point stance

[Ilmago]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-superbowl-goodell&prov=ap&type=lgns

What are your thoughts on banning the 3 point stance in the NFL?

 

[crimsonace]

Turns it into even more of a passing league, as OLs need to get into a 3-stance to get a push for a run.

I understand the safety issues, but taking the 3-point stance out of football would be like banning posting up in basketball. You could still play the game and it might even look the same, but the game would be tremendously different.

 

[Starman]

Next, we'll ban running fast and hitting hard.

 

[Del_B_Vista]

Why not ban onside kicks at the start of halves?

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/342457-onside-kick-was-dirty-pool

 

[spnited]

Tough to say what's dumber, that blog or banning the three-point stance.

 

[mb]

that blog was clearly written by someone whose only experience with football is on his PS2.

 

[Starman]

Why not ban onside kicks at the start of halves?

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/342457-onside-kick-was-dirty-pool

We have a new leader in the Moronolympics.

 

[Smallpotatoes]

Why not ban onside kicks at the start of halves?

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/342457-onside-kick-was-dirty-pool

We have a new leader in the Moronolympics.

Why not ban onside kicks at the start of halves?

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/342457-onside-kick-was-dirty-pool

If it's an unwritten rule, it's not a rule.

 

[HanSenSE]

Anyone ever wonder why I don't take seriously applicants who have mostly fanboi site experience? This is why.

 

[Steak Snabler]

Why not ban onside kicks at the start of halves?

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/342457-onside-kick-was-dirty-pool

We have a new leader in the Moronolympics.

Paging Herm Edwards ...

 

[Armchair_QB]

I'm starting to think Goddell is throwing **** out there to distract from the fact there's going to be a work stoppage after next season.

 

[forever_town]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-superbowl-goodell&prov=ap&type=lgns

What are your thoughts on banning the 3 point stance in the NFL?

I've got a better idea. How about we make all quarterbacks, punters and kickers wear red "no contact" jerseys? Even better, let's make them all wear skirts!

What kind of Sally Mary is running the NFL these days?

 

[ralph russo]

One of the heavy-hitter doctors, neurologist named Julian Bailes who used to work for the Steelers and now for West Virginia U., has baning the 3-point stance on his list of changes that could and probably should be made to make the sport safer.
I talked to Bailes a bunch this season because of the Tebow concussion story and when he suggested no 3-point stance it was like the light bulb went on above my head.
Such an obvious solution. Yes it will change the game some, but probably for the better.

Half the college teams are playing out of a shotgun the majority of the time. It's been proved by the likes of Rich Rod and Meyer that u can run the ball out of the spread. At some point NFL teams are going to get tired of teaching QBs how to dropback as more and more run the spread through high school and college.

Football is fast becoming a blood sport. The NFL is especially brutal. Guys are simply too fast, big and strong. The collisions and the hard stops and starts, the bodies can't hold up.
Anything that makes the sport safer and lowers the body count is simply a no-brainer.

 

[Starman]

One of the heavy-hitter doctors, neurologist named Julian Bailes who used to work for the Steelers and now for West Virginia U., has baning the 3-point stance on his list of changes that could and probably should be made to make the sport safer.
I talked to Bailes a bunch this season because of the Tebow concussion story and when he suggested no 3-point stance it was like the light bulb went on above my head.
Such an obvious solution. Yes it will change the game some, but probably for the better.

Half the college teams are playing out of a shotgun the majority of the time. It's been proved by the likes of Rich Rod and Meyer that u can run the ball out of the spread. At some point NFL teams are going to get tired of teaching QBs how to dropback as more and more run the spread through high school and college.

Football is fast becoming a blood sport. The NFL is especially brutal. Guys are simply too fast, big and strong. The collisions and the hard stops and starts, the bodies can't hold up.
Anything that makes the sport safer and lowers the body count is simply a no-brainer.

Well, a) Rich Rod has bombed like a buffalo turd in a birthday cake the last two seasons, I wouldn't be using him as an example for much of anything these days.

b) The physical result of banning the 3-point stance is to make starts less explosive: i.e., run slower.

c) Football has been a "blood sport" for well over 100 years; it was almost banned by Teddy Roosevelt in 1905, a threat which led to the legalization of the forward pass.

d) Since apparently you want the rules to be changed because NFL coaches will "get tired of teaching QBs to drop back," why even bother with a snap. At the beginning of every play, the ref hands the ball to the QB 5 yards behind the line of scrimmage, blows his whistle and the play starts. Why bother teaching the annoying center snap.

Seriously, if the game is going to retain any even remotely recognizable form, dramatic improvements in protective gear will have to be made. My guess is eventually helmets will be made much larger with cushioned exteriors, which theoretically should cut down on concussion-type injuries.

 

[ralph russo]

One of the heavy-hitter doctors, neurologist named Julian Bailes who used to work for the Steelers and now for West Virginia U., has baning the 3-point stance on his list of changes that could and probably should be made to make the sport safer.
I talked to Bailes a bunch this season because of the Tebow concussion story and when he suggested no 3-point stance it was like the light bulb went on above my head.
Such an obvious solution. Yes it will change the game some, but probably for the better.

Half the college teams are playing out of a shotgun the majority of the time. It's been proved by the likes of Rich Rod and Meyer that u can run the ball out of the spread. At some point NFL teams are going to get tired of teaching QBs how to dropback as more and more run the spread through high school and college.

Football is fast becoming a blood sport. The NFL is especially brutal. Guys are simply too fast, big and strong. The collisions and the hard stops and starts, the bodies can't hold up.
Anything that makes the sport safer and lowers the body count is simply a no-brainer.

Well, a) Rich Rod has bombed like a buffalo turd in a birthday cake the last two seasons, I wouldn't be using him as an example for much of anything these days.

b) The physical result of banning the 3-point stance is to make starts less explosive: i.e., run slower.

c) Football has been a "blood sport" for well over 100 years; it was almost banned by Teddy Roosevelt in 1905, a threat which led to the legalization of the forward pass.

d) Since apparently you want the rules to be changed because NFL coaches will "get tired of teaching QBs to drop back," why even bother with a snap. At the beginning of every play, the ref hands the ball to the QB 5 yards behind the line of scrimmage, blows his whistle and the play starts. Why bother teaching the annoying center snap.

Seriously, if the game is going to retain any even remotely recognizable form, dramatic improvements in protective gear will have to be made. My guess is eventually helmets will be made much larger with cushioned exteriors, which theoretically should cut down on concussion-type injuries.

Not saying that there couldn't be some type of equipment improvements, but unless you can pad the inside of the skull, there's not much that can be done to a helmet to prevent concussions. The brain slamming into the skull is the problem.

As for Rich Rod, West Va had one of the best rushing teams in the country for several years. The fact that it's not working in Michigan is besides the point. Enough of these spread teams have shown you can run the ball from the shotgun. Then of course there is the wildcat.

But forget about all that stuff, the game is brutal and getting more brutal.
I'm the last guy on earth who wants to abolish football, that would pretty much put me out of a job. I love the game and accept the fact that it will always be a meat grinder. But at some point you have to say, 'What can we do to make it safer?' And this seems like a very reasonable idea considering that linemen setting up in two-point stances is a fairly common thing at all levels of the game.
We're already moving in this direction, why not just speed it up?
I'm 39 and I think the odds are that this is something we will see in my lifetime.

 

[93Devil]

Get serious about testing for what is making these players so strong and fast.

Steroids and HGH

 

[outofplace]

Terrible idea. I guess the next thing will be banning trap blocks, or maybe any blocking scheme in which a lineman pulls. Think of the risk of a violent collision when a 300-pound man gets a running start at the guy he's trying to block and the defender might not see him coming!

Seriously, aren't there more concussions from hits in the open field than at the line of scrimmage anyway? I can't remember the last time I saw a guy knocked out by a hit when the opponent was just coming out of his three-point stance.

And ralph, West Virginia had a great running game under Rich Rodriguez because they had a great running quarterback. Nobody is going to run that offense in the NFL, not the way the Mountaineers ran it with Pat White at quarterback.

 

[The Big Ragu]

There was an episode of Real Sports on HBO a week or two ago about football concussions. The guy collecting brains and doing independent research had evidence that concussions aren't necessarily the only cause of rapid brain degeneration in former players. It's a cumulative thing from all of the contact. So the NFL is finally acknowledging that the game causes concussions and those concussions are dangerous. If it's shown that concussions or not, the repetitive contact in football causes brain deterioration, how can the NFL face that? It's admitting that the game itself is bad for your health.

I agree with taking preventative safety measures where reasonable. A lot of what they have done to protect the quarterbacks, the fair catch, even preventing the wedge on kickoffs were OK and didn't totally change the nature of the game. At a certain point, though, you can either turn it into flag football and put height and weight restrictions on the players or you have to accept that it is a physical, and pretty brutal, game.

 

[outofplace]

There was an episode of Real Sports on HBO a week or two ago about football concussions. The guy collecting brains and doing independent research had evidence that concussions aren't necessarily the only cause of rapid brain degeneration in former players. It's a cumulative thing from all of the contact. So the NFL is finally acknowledging that the game causes concussions and those concussions are dangerous. If it's shown that concussions or not, the repetitive contact in football causes brain deterioration, how can the NFL face that? It's admitting that the game itself is bad for your health.

I agree with taking preventative safety measures where reasonable. A lot of what they have done to protect the quarterbacks, the fair catch, even preventing the wedge on kickoffs were OK and didn't totally change the nature of the game. At a certain point, though, you can either turn it into flag football and put height and weight restrictions on the players or you have to accept that it is a physical, and pretty brutal, game.

Good point regarding the cumulative effect of all of the hits. The talk about the three-point stance makes more sense in that light, but I still think it is a changing something too fundamental to the game and it really won't solve the problem.

The game is bad for your health. There is no doubt about that. And I don't think most players understand that when they start out, but they certainly should know by the time they get to the NFL.

Trying to turn it into a 7-on-7 drill isn't going to make that issue go away.

 

[User 1019]

Well, at least this won't hurt Larry Craig's chances.