Automotive question

[Pencil Dick]

Timing belt broke on my Toyota Camry on the way to watch the local minor league nine play tonight.

Got the car stopped and parked within about a quarter-mile after the thing snapped while running about 65 mph (it wasn't due to be replaced for about 20,000 more miles). I'll have it towed to the Toyota repair shop I've used for years (not a dealership), but what kind of damage was likely done in that short a time?

Obviously, this is going to be an expensive repair job regardless.

 

[CradleRobber]

I hate to be honest here, but no matter how soon you stopped the car, there's probably serious engine damage.

It's very rare for a timing belt to break so early before it is scheduled to be replaced.

 

[Tom Petty]

Timing belt broke on my Toyota Camry on the way to watch the local minor league nine play tonight.

Got the car stopped and parked within about a quarter-mile after the thing snapped while running about 65 mph (it wasn't due to be replaced for about 20,000 more miles). I'll have it towed to the Toyota repair shop I've used for years (not a dealership), but what kind of damage was likely done in that short a time?

Obviously, this is going to be an expensive repair job regardless.

wow dude, that really sucks. interpret what you want from that. ... cha-ching.

 

[KG]

Which engine do you have (as in L)? Toyota is about half and half on interference and non-interference engines.

When it's an interference (hope I get all the terms correct) the crankshaft (big spinny bar that spins when the pistons are pushed down from combustion) keeps turning but the camshafts (skinny spinny bars that spin to open and close the valves) stop. That makes the still moving pistons hit the valves and can bend or break them. It can also damage the cylinder head (rectangle-shaped metal thingy near the center when you open the hood), which is what holds the whole top half of that combustion junk like the valves and camshafts.

When it's non-interference none of that stuff runs into one another.

 

[User 1019]

What Kathy's saying is, you've got a head job coming.

 

[kleeda]

You should be OK unless you have the 1.8 liter Inline 4. Pretty sure that's the only interference engine Toyota has loaded into a Camry since the early 90s.

Timing belt replace without top-end damage? $400 plus towing (a guess).
Timing belt and top-end replace? Well over $1500 (a guess again).

 

[Big Buckin' agate_monkey]

What Kathy's saying is, you've got a head job coming.

Not a bad result from such big car problems.

 

[Pencil Dick]

Update: Some positive news this morning.

First, there was no towing charge involved - paid for by AAA.

Second, it turns out it's a non-interference engine. Nothing bent or broken. Repair shop manager says I'm looking at about $800 in total repairs, including a new timing belt and a much-needed tune-up.

He didn't mention a head job, which was quite disappointing.

Looks like I'll need to get 2underpar on the golf course ASAP and win enough $$$ to pay for this this repair work.

 

[bydesign77]

this thread has put a boot in my ass (is that an acceptable pun?) to get my timing belt changed. Either that or trade my car in for another one.

That's great news, PD. And if you're playing for that kind of money on the course, remind me to come find you. I could use some cash, too.

 

[Ace]

Update: Some positive news this morning.

First, there was no towing charge involved - paid for by AAA.

Second, it turns out it's a non-interference engine. Nothing bent or broken. Repair shop manager says I'm looking at about $800 in total repairs, including a new timing belt and a much-needed tune-up.

He didn't mention a head job, which was quite disappointing.

Looks like I'll need to get 2underpar on the golf course ASAP and win enough $$$ to pay for this this repair work.

Do they still do tune ups? How many miles on that Camry, PDick?

 

[User 1019]

Since I have a cross-country trip coming up, I took the sled into the shop for some new tires, a brake job and an alignment. Total of about $550, the guy tells me yesterday.

Today, he calls and says my brakes are OK (but the rotors need turning) and I need two inner tie-rod ends, which'll tack on about $250 bucks.

Thanks, buddy.

 

[Pencil Dick]

Ace, it's a little over 157K. I the replaced original timing belt around 90,000.

bydesign, when playing 2underpar, money just falls into your pocket. Especially since he's giving up strokes. It's like Manna from Heaven.

 

[Ace]

Since I have a cross-country trip coming up, I took the sled into the shop for some new tires, a brake job and an alignment. Total of about $550, the guy tells me yesterday.

Today, he calls and says my brakes are OK (but the rotors need turning) and I need two inner tie-rod ends, which'll tack on about $250 bucks.

Thanks, buddy.

How do you get new tires, a brake job and alignment for $550?

Just two tires?

 

[Ace]

Ace, it's a little over 157K. I the replaced original timing belt around 90,000.

bydesign, when playing 2underpar, money just falls into your pocket. Especially since he's giving up strokes. It's like Manna from Heaven.

Sounds like you got your money's worth at least.

 

[User 1019]

Since I have a cross-country trip coming up, I took the sled into the shop for some new tires, a brake job and an alignment. Total of about $550, the guy tells me yesterday.

Today, he calls and says my brakes are OK (but the rotors need turning) and I need two inner tie-rod ends, which'll tack on about $250 bucks.

Thanks, buddy.

How do you get new tires, a brake job and alignment for $550?

Just two tires?

Yeah, just two tires.

 

[Ace]

Since I have a cross-country trip coming up, I took the sled into the shop for some new tires, a brake job and an alignment. Total of about $550, the guy tells me yesterday.

Today, he calls and says my brakes are OK (but the rotors need turning) and I need two inner tie-rod ends, which'll tack on about $250 bucks.

Thanks, buddy.

How do you get new tires, a brake job and alignment for $550?

Just two tires?

Yeah, just two tires.

Well, you spent a lot, but you really want your wheels all going in the same direction.

 

[User 1019]

The tires are pretty expensive.

 

[KG]

Since I have a cross-country trip coming up, I took the sled into the shop for some new tires, a brake job and an alignment. Total of about $550, the guy tells me yesterday.

Today, he calls and says my brakes are OK (but the rotors need turning) and I need two inner tie-rod ends, which'll tack on about $250 bucks.

Thanks, buddy.

They want to turn the rotors without putting on new shoes? Are they on crack?

The whole reason rotors end up needing turned is because as your shoes (brake pads) erode when used, they wear away unevenly. That causes little grooves to be put in the rotors. The grooves do have to be shaved down, aka the rotors turned, but if they do it without putting on new pads, the same uneven wear is still on the existing pads and will wear the same grooves in the rotors.

 

[cranberry]

They want to turn the rotors without putting on new shoes? Are they on crack?

The whole reason rotors end up needing turned is because as your shoes (brake pads) erode when used, they wear away unevenly. That causes little grooves to be put in the rotors. The grooves do have to be shaved down, aka the rotors turned, but if they do it without putting on new pads, the same uneven wear is still on the existing pads and will wear the same grooves in the rotors.

Damn you're good. Maybe we could have a permanent thread where you respond to all of our automotive queries?

 

[KG]

Damn you're good. Maybe we could have a permanent thread where you respond to all of our automotive queries?

Ms. Grease Monkey at your service.