Another lawmaker makes bigotted remarks.....

[Pastor]

I find the remark offensive and, obviously, the people at CNN.com at least saw it as offensive enough to warrant a blog entry.

I think the thing that keeps this from being a bigger story than it is being portrayed (right now at least, it could still catch some legs), is that it's the kind of political mudslinging we're used to seeing in a presidential campaign and it's directed solely at the one person. Obama.

The Oklahoma rep called gays (which make up what, roughly 10 percent of the population?) a bigger threat than terrorists. Both are bigoted. Both are offensive. And neither have any place in the political discourse of this country. But surely you can see how one is more inflammatory than the other, right?

Oh, I see, so if the rep from Oklahoma referred to, oh I don't know, Barney Frank, as "that Fag congressman from Mass." it would not have been worthy of nearly as big of a stink because she only insulted one homosexual person as opposed to a whole bunch?

All I know is this -- if Trent Lott or Rick Santorum said the only reason Obama is where he is is because he's black -- the pinheads at CNN and MSNBC would have cancelled all programming today and had 24-hour wall-to-wall coverage, complete with cutaways for reaction to every black neighborhood in America.

It is a ridiculous double standard.

But there is no bias in the media.....

Nice strawman. Too bad it doesn't exist and never did exist. Good try though! You get an A for effort.

 

[PCLoadLetter]

Why is it that some on the right have such a desperate need to feel like victims?

Seriously, you think it's proof of bias that Ferraro's remarks haven't gotten bigger play? Geraldine Ferraro is 20+ years beyond being even moderately relevant. I don't give a **** what she has to say any more than I care what any other wannabe-VP who took an ass-kicking thinks, like Jack Kemp.

And if you actually read what she says, it's not a bigoted comment at all. Pastor is exactly right -- she's saying he isn't qualified, and that he only got this far because he's black. I think it's stupid and wrong, but it's not bigoted.

 

[bigpern23]

For those who weren't clear on what I said, I'll try again.

IT IS OFFENSIVE. IT HAS NO PLACE IN POLITICAL DISCOURSE. I am not defending it, not saying it is not a big story. I am, however, saying that clearly, the Representative from Oklahoma made a more inflammatory remark.

I don't know why I bother arguing stuff like this with you guys. You all seem to think that everything said is equal. If Obama was caught cheating on his wife with a 35-year-old woman, you would wonder why it wasn't as big of a story as John McCain cheating on his wife with a 9-year-old boy (disclaimer: obviously neither of these stories are true, it's just an example).

There are degrees to everything, there are shades of gray to everything. It really must be horrible to see everything in absolutes the way you do. It sounds like a really stressful way to live life.

 

[Fenian_Bastard]

I don't know.
CNN threw it up there, and at least two local radio yakkers were talking about it here. I suspect the cable nets will be all over it. Ferraro's been on at least two Fox shows already. The Spitzer's story is going to take up a lot of oxygen, too.

 

[zagoshe]

Geraldine Ferraro is 20+ years beyond being even moderately relevant.

Maybe you should read the article a little closer before opening your mouth, she is obviously very relevant being as she is one of the top people in Clinton's finance committee and would likely play some role in a Clinton White House......

"Barack Obama’s chief strategist said Tuesday that a comment by one of Hillary Clinton’s top fundraisers"

She is obviously relevant to these discussions given her position, no?

And I take it given your stance is that it is not biggoted when the angry white males on these boards continue to say any number of black journalists who happen to be in high profile positions are only there because of affirmative action?

Is that what you are saying? That's not bigotted?

 

[friend of a friend]

we have entered bizarro world

 

[Fenian_Bastard]

zag's gone interplanetary.

 

[zagoshe]

So I take it you all agree that it is not bigotted or sexist when white males on these very threads whine and cry about black and women journalists getting all the good jobs simply because they are minorities?

 

[friend of a friend]

remind me, zag. Who has said that?

 

[zagoshe]

remind me, zag. Who has said that?

The people who automatically defended Ferrarro by saying that what she said -- that Obama has gotten where he is because he is black -- was not bigotted.

It is no different than the people on these threads whining about affirmative action hires as being unqualified.

And any time one of those threads has been started or that issue has been brought up on a thread, the slobbering and hand wringing and screaming and lecturing about bigotry and hatred that goes on is quite an amazing thing to behold, so I am just wondering where all of that is on this subject?

 

[Fudgie the Whale]

remind me, zag. Who has said that?

Still waiting.

 

[friend of a friend]

still waiting, who are the white males on these very threads who whine and cry about black and women journalists getting all the good jobs simply because they are minorities

 

[Fenian_Bastard]

Clock's ticking.

 

[zeke12]

Bigoted.

One t.

 

[Pastor]

Clock's ticking.

I'm just glad nobody is holding their breath...

 

[friend of a friend]

where did zag go?

 

[bigpern23]

Maybe it's his avatar, but I can't picture Zagoshe as anything other than a frothing maniac sitting at his computer and screaming at the monitor as he pounds the keyboard to type his disgust at all of us who whine and cry about minority hires. Who was it that did that again? Did we ever get an answer on that one?

 

[PCLoadLetter]

Geraldine Ferraro is 20+ years beyond being even moderately relevant.

Maybe you should read the article a little closer before opening your mouth, she is obviously very relevant being as she is one of the top people in Clinton's finance committee and would likely play some role in a Clinton White House......

"Barack Obama’s chief strategist said Tuesday that a comment by one of Hillary Clinton’s top fundraisers"

She is obviously relevant to these discussions given her position, no?

And I take it given your stance is that it is not biggoted when the angry white males on these boards continue to say any number of black journalists who happen to be in high profile positions are only there because of affirmative action?

Is that what you are saying? That's not bigotted?

From a national perspective Geraldine Ferraro was the running mate 24 years ago on the worst Democratic ticket in American history. 99% of the American public couldn't tell you a single thing she's done since then. I don't give a **** if she's raising money.

And there is a slight difference between saying one person is not qualified for a job and saying blacks are stealing jobs through affirmative action, which is essentially the angry white guy argument.

 

[PeteyPirate]

where did zag go?

Perhaps he was gunned down by a 14-year-old kid.

 

[Pastor]

Maybe it's his avatar, but I can't picture Zagoshe as anything other than a frothing maniac sitting at his computer and screaming at the monitor as he pounds the keyboard to type his disgust at all of us who whine and cry about minority hires. Who was it that did that again? Did we ever get an answer on that one?

That only comes after he ran into his house to avoid the 14-year-olds with AK-47s that were chasing him down the street for his sneakers...

where did zag go?

Perhaps he was gunned down by a 14-year-old kid.

Damn it...