All-purpose Herman Cain fun thread

[Dick Whitman]

Story broke this weekend:

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2011/10/herman-cain-accused-inappropriate-behavior-former-female-co-workers/44326/

It will be interesting to see how this plays out. It didn't hurt Clarence Thomas in the end, though some pin that on Biden. There won't be that level of politicking to protect Cain, who has to face the public, not the Senate.

Perhaps the more apt comparison is Bill Clinton, though I think there's probably a difference between an accusation, which is denied, and a settlement, which the voters may view as a tacit admission. (Fair or not.)

P.S. Before this is dismissed as an attack from the left, note that it broke at Politico, a right-leaning site. Same as the Bachmann migraines, I think, which were also leaked from the right. Unless it's about Romney, I think that most dirt you hear on the candidates right now are not going to come from the Obama camp, but from within the GOP lineup of candidates themselves.

 

[terrier]

Re: Herman Cain's sexual harassment history

Gotta be the Perry camp. Who benefits most from a Cain collapse?
The only bigger nightmare to that crowd than a black man in the White House is a black man getting the GOP presidential nomination. There REALLY goes the neighborhood.

 

[Drip]

Re: Herman Cain's sexual harassment history

Black guy running for office = got to be a sex scandal some where in his past.
WTF?
Time for a new line. This one is old.

 

[Ace]

Re: Herman Cain's sexual harassment history

Black guy running for office = got to be a sex scandal some where in his past.
WTF?
Time for a new line. This one is old.

Yeah. White politicians never have sex scandals. This is racist.

 

[PCLoadLetter]

Re: Herman Cain's sexual harassment history

The thing that gets me here is that Cain and his staff seem blindsided by this. WTF? It's not like these are new allegations -- these women were paid off years ago after making their complaints against him. Did they somehow think this wouldn't come out?

 

[LongTimeListener]

Re: Herman Cain's sexual harassment history

It was all a big misunderstanding after he told two office gals about his 6-9-6 plan.

 

[qtlaw]

Re: Herman Cain's sexual harassment history

The quote is "five figure" settlements. Unless those were $99,999 payments, I'd venture more likely $10-20k and that's simply the costs of defense, probably much less. Get it over with, move on. The settlements were probably supposed to be confidential but you have to prove someone leaked it, which is going to be hard, especially after the passage of time.

 

[britwrit]

Re: Herman Cain's sexual harassment history

Gotta be the Perry camp. Who benefits most from a Cain collapse?

Or to be honest, Obama and every other candidate in the race. Cain is a fantastic speaker, one who honestly calls it as he sees it. I disagree with pretty much everything he says but the professional politicians look pretty bad in comparison.

 

[Dick Whitman]

Re: Herman Cain's sexual harassment history

Black guy running for office = got to be a sex scandal some where in his past.
WTF?
Time for a new line. This one is old.

Yeah. White politicians never have sex scandals. This is racist.

What he said. I think we all just get conditioned to think that because of Clarence Thomas.

As far as this one goes, it clearly happened. There were settlements paid. This isn't just innuendo.

 

[heyabbott]

Re: Herman Cain's sexual harassment history

It was all a big misunderstanding after he told two office gals about his 6-9-6 plan.

Solid.

I guess his new bumper sticker will be :
WHERE DA WHITE WOMEN AT?

 

[Evil ... Thy name is Orville Redenbacher!!]

Re: Herman Cain's sexual harassment history

These woman were prolly Democrats who favored the current tax strucutre as opposed to Cain's 3-way plan.

 

[Webster]

Re: Herman Cain's sexual harassment history

We don't know the facts -- sometimes these things are legitimate and sometimes they are not. A lot of companies settle everything to avoid litigation and bad publicity and others only do so with bad cases.

While his people should have known about this and prepared him, everything else is just speculation

 

[Evil ... Thy name is Orville Redenbacher!!]

Re: Herman Cain's sexual harassment history

We don't know the facts -- sometimes these things are legitimate and sometimes they are not. A lot of companies settle everything to avoid litigation and bad publicity and others only do so with bad cases.

While his people should have known about this and prepared him, everything else is just speculation

That's true a lot of times it is cheaper to settle than fight. The decision is often made by insurance companies. But the fact more than one women complained don't look good.

 

[Dick Whitman]

Re: Herman Cain's sexual harassment history

I think most of us realize that settlement does not equal guilt. There are tactical reasons to settle. It sucks, because lawsuits are transformed into legalized extortion, particularly when the settlements are accompanied by gag orders. Unfortunately for Cain, I don't think the public takes quite such a nuanced view.

If there is a gag order attached to the settlement, I wonder if the other parties have, legally, waived it by leaking the news?

 

[Webster]

Re: Herman Cain's sexual harassment history

We don't know the facts -- sometimes these things are legitimate and sometimes they are not. A lot of companies settle everything to avoid litigation and bad publicity and others only do so with bad cases.

While his people should have known about this and prepared him, everything else is just speculation

That's true a lot of times it is cheaper to settle than fight. The decision is often made by insurance companies. But the fact more than one women complained don't look good.

True -- but I can imagine the scenerio where he made some stupid comments around the office, both employees may have been happy and/or well regarded and they used this to get a payout.

 

[Stitch]

Re: Herman Cain's sexual harassment history

A CEO making sexually inappropriate remarks? That's a shocker.

 

[TigerVols]

Re: Herman Cain's sexual harassment history

While his people should have known about this and prepared him, everything else is just speculation

I guess his one staff member was on a smoke break.

 

[Ace]

Re: Herman Cain's sexual harassment history


Those women were just asking for it by agreeing to work for some rich, old, horny dude.

 

[Mizzougrad96]

Re: Herman Cain's sexual harassment history

He asked them if they wanted to see where he hid the pepperoni and they misunderstood.

 

[Evil ... Thy name is Orville Redenbacher!!]

Re: Herman Cain's sexual harassment history

Those women were just asking for it by agreeing to work for some rich, old, horny dude.

I want you as my lawyer!