9 / 11 Burnout

[playthrough]

I have no problem with the 9/11 tributes. I just really, really, really hate the song God Bless America.

I think MLB goes out of its way to have the worst performances of that song.

MLB over-schmaltzes everything. I'll give the NFL much more leeway with their tributes.

 

[Mizzougrad96]

I'll take "America the Beautiful" or "God Bless the USA" over "God Bless America" every single time...

I remember going to a baseball game in Atlanta a little more than a week after 9/11 and they said the pledge of allegiance, the national anthem, America the Beautiful and probably 1-2 other patriotic songs/tributes... I remember a writer who was sitting behind me saying, "yeah, I'll file this gamer if they ever stop with the songs and the tributes."

This was maybe Sept. 20, 2001 and people were already thinking some things were overkill. I didn't think that then, but 10 years later, with all of the problems that we're facing in this country, I don't think anyone benefits from reliving a day that was probably among the worst of most of our lives.

 

[podunk press]

Our paper is putting out an anniversary section.

I've spoken to family members and asked them if the anniversary of Sept. 11 harbors bad memories, and almost universally, they say it isn't any different than any other day. They miss their loved ones and think about them every day, anniversary or not.

I don't know how many people will be interested in reading these stories or not. I don't think the stories are "a crutch" though. Our community is having three different remembrances Sunday.

 

[printdust]

I'll take "America the Beautiful" or "God Bless the USA" over "God Bless America" every single time...

I remember going to a baseball game in Atlanta a little more than a week after 9/11 and they said the pledge of allegiance, the national anthem, America the Beautiful and probably 1-2 other patriotic songs/tributes... I remember a writer who was sitting behind me saying, "yeah, I'll file this gamer if they ever stop with the songs and the tributes."

This was maybe Sept. 20, 2001 and people were already thinking some things were overkill. I didn't think that then, but 10 years later, with all of the problems that we're facing in this country, I don't think anyone benefits from reliving a day that was probably among the worst of most of our lives.

Some might hate "America the Beautiful" because "God shed his grace on thee."
You know, the happy people with lawyers.
Then again, as long as no one could sing it other than Ray Charles, meaning we'd have to play CDs at every ballgame, I'd be for it. Anything less than Ray Charles is treason.

 

[printdust]

And of course, we can all look back on the happy people who were insisting that schools take down the "God Bless America" marquees on Sept. 12 and 13, 2001.

 

[21]

I have no problem with remembering and commemorating. But the 10th anniversary has no more importance than the 9th or 11th anniversary. So I'm bothered by the specific focus on this one anniversary.

And btw, you will not find a better 9/11 exhibit than the one at the Newseum in DC, focusing on the coverage and how our colleagues worked that story. I swear I didn't breathe for 20 minutes, and then I cried for the next four hours. They have the mangled twisted broadcasting antenna from the top of one of the towers, just a stunning symbol of what we do and how we take for granted our ability to do it. If you ever have the opportunity...go.

 

[schiezainc]

In my opinion, they can bring on every 9/11 documentary, film, photo collage, feature story, e.t.c. that they want to. There can never be enough reminders of that day, of the way we felt as a country in the immediate aftermath and of the freedoms that we take for granted on a daily basis.

I, for one, never appreciated the job police and firefighters do more than I did that day and never appreciated the job our military does to protect our country more than that day and I don't think those are lessons we should let fall by the wayside.

 

[Ace]

In my opinion, they can bring on every 9/11 documentary, film, photo collage, feature story, e.t.c. that they want to. There can never be enough reminders of that day, of the way we felt as a country in the immediate aftermath and of the freedoms that we take for granted on a daily basis.

I, for one, never appreciated the job police and firefighters do more than I did that day and never appreciated the job our military does to protect our country more than that day and I don't think those are lessons we should let fall by the wayside.

The police and firefighters were absolute heroes, but what did the military do to protect our country that day?

 

[schiezainc]

In my opinion, they can bring on every 9/11 documentary, film, photo collage, feature story, e.t.c. that they want to. There can never be enough reminders of that day, of the way we felt as a country in the immediate aftermath and of the freedoms that we take for granted on a daily basis.

I, for one, never appreciated the job police and firefighters do more than I did that day and never appreciated the job our military does to protect our country more than that day and I don't think those are lessons we should let fall by the wayside.

The police and firefighters were absolute heroes, but what did the military do to protect our country that day?

Really?

Really?

Wow.

I don't even know how to respond to that.

 

[Boom_70]

FWIW my US relatives feel the same as Boom and Mizzou on this. One is a native Long Islander and she especially thinks it has gone over the top.

I love Boom, but he doesn't actually feel this way.

Go look at the Super Bowl thread from last year about the topic.

Yes I do feel that way.

As far as Super Bowl I think your were referring to discussion on reading of The Declaration of Independence. It's been some time but I don't recall 9/11 discussion.

 

[Ace]

In my opinion, they can bring on every 9/11 documentary, film, photo collage, feature story, e.t.c. that they want to. There can never be enough reminders of that day, of the way we felt as a country in the immediate aftermath and of the freedoms that we take for granted on a daily basis.

I, for one, never appreciated the job police and firefighters do more than I did that day and never appreciated the job our military does to protect our country more than that day and I don't think those are lessons we should let fall by the wayside.

The police and firefighters were absolute heroes, but what did the military do to protect our country that day?

Really?

Really?

Wow.

I don't even know how to respond to that.

Three planes hit their targets to devastating effect. One plane was brought down by passengers.

If you mean you are glad of the military in general for keeping America safe, fine.

 

[printdust]

I hear today we're at a point where you won't have to take off shoes, etc., in airport searches.

That will help.

Terrorists will take the fluid inserts you can buy for shoes and put explosive liquid in those.


At the risk of being labeled a hater of Muslims, we're still missing the point of profiling. And you think it's all about racism, no. If they are profiled, and wind up on a plane, they're not suspiciously looked at by every passenger.

Be honest. There's eight Muslim men sitting together in first class, head garb and all, as you walk past them to your coach seat. Tell me they didn't get your attention and suddenly you're wondering what building you might land in today.

If you have profiling and searches of targeted people, no one gives them a second look.

And the innocent Muslims sitting as a group on a plane doesn't have to put up with the glares they now get.

 

[YankeeFan]

In my opinion, they can bring on every 9/11 documentary, film, photo collage, feature story, e.t.c. that they want to. There can never be enough reminders of that day, of the way we felt as a country in the immediate aftermath and of the freedoms that we take for granted on a daily basis.

I, for one, never appreciated the job police and firefighters do more than I did that day and never appreciated the job our military does to protect our country more than that day and I don't think those are lessons we should let fall by the wayside.

The police and firefighters were absolute heroes, but what did the military do to protect our country that day?

Really?

Really?

Wow.

I don't even know how to respond to that.

Three planes hit their targets to devastating effect. One plane was brought down by passengers.

If you mean you are glad of the military in general for keeping America safe, fine.

The Pentagon was hit. Staff there immediately went to work trying to evacuate and save people.

Fighter planes were scrambled.

Air Force pilots kept our President safe.

Marine guards at embassies around the globe were put on high alert.

 

[Azrael]

Be honest.

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2007/11/just-asking/6288/

 

[schiezainc]

In my opinion, they can bring on every 9/11 documentary, film, photo collage, feature story, e.t.c. that they want to. There can never be enough reminders of that day, of the way we felt as a country in the immediate aftermath and of the freedoms that we take for granted on a daily basis.

I, for one, never appreciated the job police and firefighters do more than I did that day and never appreciated the job our military does to protect our country more than that day and I don't think those are lessons we should let fall by the wayside.

The police and firefighters were absolute heroes, but what did the military do to protect our country that day?

Really?

Really?

Wow.

I don't even know how to respond to that.

Three planes hit their targets to devastating effect. One plane was brought down by passengers.

If you mean you are glad of the military in general for keeping America safe, fine.

The Pentagon was hit. Staff their immediately went to work trying to evacuate and save people their.

Fighter planes were scrambled.

Air Force pilots kept our President safe.

Marine guards at embassies around the globe were put on high alert.

Thank you.

I mean, for f**k sake.

 

[PCLoadLetter]

I hear today we're at a point where you won't have to take off shoes, etc., in airport searches.

That will help.

Terrorists will take the fluid inserts you can buy for shoes and put explosive liquid in those.


At the risk of being labeled a hater of Muslims, we're still missing the point of profiling. And you think it's all about racism, no. If they are profiled, and wind up on a plane, they're not suspiciously looked at by every passenger.

Be honest. There's eight Muslim men sitting together in first class, head garb and all, as you walk past them to your coach seat. Tell me they didn't get your attention and suddenly you're wondering what building you might land in today.

If you have profiling and searches of targeted people, no one gives them a second look.

And the innocent Muslims sitting as a group on a plane doesn't have to put up with the glares they now get.

I'll be honest. I was just on international flights last week, and have been on a few in the last 4 years. There have been a large number of Muslim men on those flights, and it didn't give me a moment of unease. I didn't worry that we'd be flying into a building. I was not scared by their "head garb and all."

It's a big ol' world out there, and a lot of it is Muslim. If you are going to be frightened by anyone in a turban, you're going to have a really scary life. And profiling isn't going to raise the comfort level of someone terrified of people with darker skin than their own.

Remember this, as we struggle to make ourselves "safer" -- you are statistically more likely to die of cancer because of the screening machines than you are to die because of a terrorist on your flight. And the odds of cancer is one in 30 million.

Having said all that, I'm not opposed to some level of profiling, mostly so we can stop feeling up little girls at TSA checkpoints and pretending it's necessary for national security.

 

[Mizzougrad96]

I had to fly into NYC to cover a game about a month after 9/11. I've been to NYC countless times for work and not seeing the towers as we came in to land really got to me.

 

[KYSportsWriter]

I hear today we're at a point where you won't have to take off shoes, etc., in airport searches.

That will help.

Terrorists will take the fluid inserts you can buy for shoes and put explosive liquid in those.


At the risk of being labeled a hater of Muslims, we're still missing the point of profiling. And you think it's all about racism, no. If they are profiled, and wind up on a plane, they're not suspiciously looked at by every passenger.

Be honest. There's eight Muslim men sitting together in first class, head garb and all, as you walk past them to your coach seat. Tell me they didn't get your attention and suddenly you're wondering what building you might land in today.

If you have profiling and searches of targeted people, no one gives them a second look.

And the innocent Muslims sitting as a group on a plane doesn't have to put up with the glares they now get.

I'll be honest. I was just on international flights last week, and have been on a few in the last 4 years. There have been a large number of Muslim men on those flights, and it didn't give me a moment of unease. I didn't worry that we'd be flying into a building. I was not scared by their "head garb and all."

It's a big ol' world out there, and a lot of it is Muslim. If you are going to be frightened by anyone in a turban, you're going to have a really scary life. And profiling isn't going to raise the comfort level of someone terrified of people with darker skin than their own.

Remember this, as we struggle to make ourselves "safer" -- you are statistically more likely to die of cancer because of the screening machines than you are to die because of a terrorist on your flight. And the odds of cancer is one in 30 million.

Having said all that, I'm not opposed to some level of profiling, mostly so we can stop feeling up little girls at TSA checkpoints and pretending it's necessary for national security.

Look who you're responding to ...

 

[HanSenSE]

Could be interesting to see if the NFL can get more jingoistic than it did before the last Super Bowl. I like the NFL because it's a few hours of escapism on a Sunday. A simple moment of silence before the anthem works for me. And no matter what you do, it ain't bringing back the towers or the ones who perished ...

No escaping on Sunday:

The Dallas Cowboys begin their 2011 season with a road game Sunday night against the New York Jets. (The game telecast begins at 7:15 p.m. on NBC.)

Sunday, of course, is the 10th anniversary of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, and the Jets have announced the tributes they have planned for that evening.

They include:

• Handing out American flags to every fan entering MetLife Stadium.

• A pregame performance of "Amazing Grace" by bagpipers from the Fire Department of New York, the New York Police Department, and the Port Authority Police Department.

• The unfurling of a field-sized American flag that will be held by members of the military, firefighters, police officers, and the Cowboys and Jets.

• At halftime, Robert De Niro, a New York native, will narrate a salute to family members of 9/11 victims.

• Players and coaches on the sidelines will wear "FDNY" and "NYPD" caps, and identical caps will be sold in stadium gift shops and at jetsshop.com. The hats will sell for $15, with all proceeds going to the 9/11 memorial and museum near the site in Lower Manhattan where the World Trade Center stood.

• Fans who wish to donate to the memorial can make a $10 pledge via text throughout the game by sending the word HOPE to 80088.

Guy can dream, can't he?

But while we're going over the top, let's have a couple of family reunions as well. Does nothing say "exploitation" more than a wife/husband/boy/girl seeing mommy/daddy/son/daughter for the first time in months at midfield/home plate? [/bluefont]

 

[heyabbott]

I wish they would stop talking about World War II.

Every Christmas it's Jesus this and Jesus that. OK, we get it, it's his birthday. Everyone has a birthday, can we move on?