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Where the phrase "drinking the Kool-Aid" unfortunately originated.

I only remember it because I was staying at my grandparents for the Thanksgiving weekend that year and it was all over TV.

Here's a timeline of events leading up to the mass suicide:

http://cbs5.com/local/jonestown.tragedy.timeline.2.867258.html
 
I grew up in the San Francisco Bay Area and this was huge when it happened. I was 14 or so when it happened and I remember the phone just ringing off the hook as my folks and others were trying to figure out who they knew that had died. There were so many people from the area down there that many had a connection to someone. It was not a fun time.

In addidtion, my family had property in Mendocino county and so did the Peoples Temple. The temple made some effort (I don't remember how hard they tried) to do what they did in Guyana in northern California. If I remember correctly, the residents of the area kind of moved them along.

The same thing happened in the same area with the "Moonies" in the mid to late 70's. Not the violence, just an attempt to build a commune.
 
Inky_Wretch said:
And let's not forget, three members of the media were killed at the Guyana airport along with Rep. Ryan and a Temple defector.

Here's a story by a journalist who was wounded in the attack that left the above five people dead:

news.scotsman.com/world/Jonestown-30-years-on-the.4702853.jp

RIP, all the innocent victims.....especially the children who never had a choice and never had a chance. :'(
 
The History Channel had a phenomenal documentary on this a year or so ago, and MSNBC had one this weekend. Lots of interviews with the few survivors just telling their stories, including Jim Jones' son (he was in another part of the country and knew his father was nuts). Just absolutely spellbinding.
 
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The CNN show was phenomenal. It focused on the survivors, but had all the information leading up to the sucides. Then it went on to talk about what the survivors had been doing since. Pretty emotional stuff.
 
Football_Bat said:
Where the phrase "drinking the Kool-Aid" unfortunately originated.

I only remember it because I was staying at my grandparents for the Thanksgiving weekend that year and it was all over TV.

Here's a timeline of events leading up to the mass suicide:

http://cbs5.com/local/jonestown.tragedy.timeline.2.867258.html
Sadly, I'm a Jonestown junkie.

It was actually Flav-r-aid.

Congressman Leo Ryan's assistant on the trip, who was shot five times and lay motionless on the Port Kaituma airstrip for 19 hours, is Jackie Speier.

This year, she joined the U.S. House of Representatives.

One other interesting note/story: http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2008-11-17/they-murdered-my-friend/

Finally, it always bugged me that with all these images of bloated corpses, there has never been a released pic of Jones post-mortem.
 
newgrad2008 said:
The CNN show was phenomenal. It focused on the survivors, but had all the information leading up to the sucides. Then it went on to talk about what the survivors had been doing since. Pretty emotional stuff.

I have it on TIVO. Have not watched it yet.
 
A sad postscript: one of Rep. Ryan's daughters later joined a cult in India.
 
Double J said:
A sad postscript: one of Rep. Ryan's daughters later joined a cult in India.

Wow - that's pretty amazing.

I thought the CNN special was very well done. The audio of Jim Jones exhorting people to drink the cyanide and telling parents why their kids are better off dead is just horrifying.
 
Always amazed me how, in less than 24 hours, it went from Ryan giving that "you're doing great here" speech in front of that ominous hanging sign to him and 900+ others being dead.
 
Dyno said:
Double J said:
A sad postscript: one of Rep. Ryan's daughters later joined a cult in India.

Wow - that's pretty amazing.

I thought the CNN special was very well done. The audio of Jim Jones exhorting people to drink the cyanide and telling parents why their kids are better off dead is just horrifying.
Always wondered how they had audio of that.

He was taping himself?
 
There were some recordings, yeah.

I read that AP story on the wire over the weekend. Just mind boggling to me how it all really went down. Can you imagine in today's media...?

I hadn't even been born at the time, and only knew the cliched knowledge of it. After that story though, phew.
 
Cue slow piano music and Tom Rinaldi talking about USD's Rob Jones in .... 3 .... 2 .... 1
 
Simon_Cowbell said:
Flying Headbutt said:
There were some recordings, yeah.
As weird as all of it was.... How bizarre is THAT?

About as bizarre as the (apparently unfounded) rumours that suggested Charles Manson went off the deep end after unsuccessfully trying out for "The Monkees."

"I'm a Believer," indeed. :-\
 
Dirk Legume said:
I grew up in the San Francisco Bay Area and this was huge when it happened. I was 14 or so when it happened and I remember the phone just ringing off the hook as my folks and others were trying to figure out who they knew that had died. There were so many people from the area down there that many had a connection to someone. It was not a fun time.

I grew up in the Bay Area too and was of similar age (12) when it happened. The thing I remember most vividly was it was only a matter of days before the City Hall killings of mayor George Moscone and supervisor Harvey Milk. And people in SF wondered what the F was happening to their world.
 

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