1 killed in suburban Cleveland school shooting

[slappy4428]

CHARDON, Ohio (AP) — A gunman opened fire inside a high school cafeteria at the start of the school day Monday, killing one student and wounding four others, authorities said. A suspect — believed to be a student — was arrested a short distance away.
The suspect was taken into custody near his car a half-mile from the suburban Cleveland school, the FBI said.

http://www.freep.com/article/20120227/NEWS07/120227013/Ohio-high-school-bloodshed-1-dead-4-wounded-gunman-opens-fire-cafeteria
http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/index.html

 

[NoOneLikesUs]

Glad they got the guy alive. It will be interesting to see what sort of bullying (if indeed that is the case) pushed him to this extreme.

 

[RickStain]

Glad they got the guy alive. It will be interesting to see what sort of bullying (if indeed that is the case) pushed him to this extreme.

That's an incredibly large, unsupported assumption.

 

[TheSportsPredictor]

Not really suburban Cleveland. It's a small town 30 miles east of downtown Cleveland and surrounded by farmland. Around 12 miles from the outskirts of the real eastern suburbs of Cleveland. About 1,100 in the school.

Initial reports indicate that the dude was mad someone was dating his ex-gf. He supposedly posted a pic of himself with guns and a sign saying this was coming up today on his Twitter account last night.

Depending on who is spelling it, name of kid who died is either exact same or one letter off of name of kid shot and killed at Northern Illinois University in Feb. 2008.

 

[NoOneLikesUs]

Initial reports indicate that the dude was mad someone was dating his ex-gf. He supposedly posted a pic of himself with guns and a sign saying this was coming up today on his Twitter account last night.

Pic of kid with guns going around is not the shooter.

 

[D-3 Fan]

Rick, CBS Radio has reported on their news now that students have said that the shooter was an outcast and was reportedly bullied.

 

[LongTimeListener]

Rick, CBS Radio has reported on their news now that students have said that the shooter was an outcast and was reportedly bullied.

Students are always going to say that. And reporters are always going to ask questions that get students to say that. It's the default explanation.

 

[93Devil]

So many details to come out on this, but if someone wants to go to a school and kill someone with a gun, the only question to ask is how many people will be hurt or killed.

That's a terrifying thing to think about, but it's the honest truth.

 

[Herbert Anchovy]

The early reports were that the Columbine punks were bullied and that was slowly proven to be false. The one kid was crazier than a ****house rat.

 

[Gehrig]

Do you think he should be tried as a juvenile or an adult?

 

[NoOneLikesUs]

There's a possibility the kid's dad had a checkered criminal past. Saw some court records for a person at the home address the cops are searching. Attempted murder, kidnapping, assault charges from back in 2002.

 

[Beaker]

Do you think he should be tried as a juvenile or an adult?

Not sure what the law is in Ohio, but usually there are certain crimes (murder being one of them) in which juveniles (of at least some age) are automatically tried as adults.

 

[RickStain]

Rick, CBS Radio has reported on their news now that students have said that the shooter was an outcast and was reportedly bullied.

Kids always say that in the aftermath. That's how all the false rumors (many of which have turned into urban legends that just won't go away) about Columbine came about.

The truth is always a lot more complicated.

(sorry, this is a huge pet peeve of mine).

 

[MightyMouse]

Rick, CBS Radio has reported on their news now that students have said that the shooter was an outcast and was reportedly bullied.

So ... in other words, he went to high school.

 

[TheSportsPredictor]

Rick, CBS Radio has reported on their news now that students have said that the shooter was an outcast and was reportedly bullied.

So ... in other words, he went to high school.

Not sure if he was bullied. Based on what I've read, the shooter at one time hung out with all the kids he shot. In some way he became disassociated with that group. Today he came up behind them in the cafeteria and shot them, then took off running and shot another girl. Someone described it as "burner on burner" violence.

Sounds like three of the people he shot are dead, another in pretty bad shape.

 

[KYSportsWriter]

Glad they got the guy alive. It will be interesting to see what sort of bullying (if indeed that is the case) pushed him to this extreme.

That's an incredibly large, unsupported assumption.

He did say "if that's the case."

Or did you not read that part?

 

[RickStain]

I did. But why even bring it up?

At best, it's lazy thinking. At worst, it perpetuates a dangerous urban legend.


(again, sorry, but this is a huge pet peeve of mine).

 

[Care Bear]

Agree with Rick. Pet peeve of mine, too.

Just reported on Nightline that the perpetrator was not bullied. Sounds like he had a complex or two. He recently posted on Facebook some crap about how the whole world should bow at his feet. And he ended that status update nicely with "Die, all of you."

 

[Baron Scicluna]

I did. But why even bring it up?

At best, it's lazy thinking. At worst, it perpetuates a dangerous urban legend.


(again, sorry, but this is a huge pet peeve of mine).

What's so dangerous about it?

It took a number of years for Columbine bullying legend to be debunked, but it took the bullying urban legend, plus some other school shootings by kids who were actually outcasts, for schools to finally start taking bullying seriously.

Before that, it was "Kids just being kids, nothing to see here."

 

[Bubbler]

No, no. That's German for "The, all of you."