Would she be considered a walk-on?

[sweetbreads bailey]

I'm doing a story highlighting area high school seniors who have signed with college programs. There is a volleyball player who verbally committed to play for an ACC school, but I just got an email from her mom saying it's not really a "signing" since she's not receiving financial aid as a freshman. She was told she wouldn't start receiving financial aid until her sophomore year.

Is this player considered a walk-on as a freshman? I realize the non-rev sports don't get lots of scholarships but a red flag came up for me when she told me she wasn't getting any $$ her first year. I'd hate to see the rug pulled out from underneath her after a year.

 

[Ace]

Presumably, not that it makes a whole lot of difference, except I guess she can't technically "sign" since she is not receiving any scholarship this year at least.

If it makes you feel better, she could be getting scholarship money her first year and still get the rug pulled out from under her the next.

 

[BBJones]

This is fairly common in volleyball. Kids get scholarships after proving they can play at the college level. Not sure if it happens that way much in other sports.

 

[Mira]

If she is not on scholarship but practicing, traveling and suiting up with the team, I would think she is a walk-on.

From what the mom told you, it sounds like she'll be on scholarship as a sophomore.

 

[HoopsMcCann]

in football it's knwon as gray shirting

 

[spnited]

I've also seen the term "invited walk-on," as in, prove yourself as a freshman and we'll give you money after that.

 

[Idaho]

in football it's knwon as gray shirting

No it isn't.

Gray shirting happens when you don't enroll in school until the second semester, thereby putting off the calendar year in which the academic/eligibility clock begins ticking.

this is done to allow kids to show up for spring practice before their official freshman seasons begin. When fall camp opens, they are still freshmen. It's not quite the same, but essentially the same as graduating from high school a half year early or late and getting in a free spring training.

 

[Big Buckin' agate_monkey]

Soccer player in my area is doing something like that, except he's graduating early. Seems like a great plan if you can pull it off. Jump into spring practices, get your feet wet, learn the ropes of college classes/assignments before you're in season, get a jump on the freshmen arriving over the summer.

 

[chester]

in football it's knwon as gray shirting

No it isn't.

Gray shirting happens when you don't enroll in school until the second semester, thereby putting off the calendar year in which the academic/eligibility clock begins ticking.

this is done to allow kids to show up for spring practice before their official freshman seasons begin. When fall camp opens, they are still freshmen. It's not quite the same, but essentially the same as graduating from high school a half year early or late and getting in a free spring training.

That's how Todd Boeckman can only be a junior yet have been out of high school for five years now.

 

[mike311gd]

I thought the standard term was "preferred walk-on." But I could be wrong.

 

[Cadet]

If the player does not sign a National Letter of Intent to play for a school, he/she is considered a walk-on or non-scholarship player. The school owes nothing to these kids, and they can be cut/dismissed by the coach at any time for any reason. Don't take mom's word on the kid being assured of a scholarship for the following year; that's a common line used to get the parents to pony up for the first year. Sure, the coach often finds a little textbook money after the first year, but it will likely never become a full-scholarship situation.

You also have to be very careful about how you word this in your stories. With no NLI on the table, the school can't confirm or deny a kid will be on their team. They can't talk about a walk-on until he/she matriculates at the school and is announced on a team's roster. You can write "Suzy Creamcheese is planning to walk on to the State U. volleyball team in the fall" but not "Suzy Creamcheese will play for Coach Snot at State U. in the fall" or "Suzy has been offered a spot with State U." Neither is true, yet.

You also have to be careful about kids intending to play for the service academies, none of whom sign an NLI because they don't receive athletic scholarships. I'm not sure if the Ivys sign NLIs or not. Anyone have experience with an Ivy League recruit?

Even if a kid is getting $500 a year in book money as their "scholarship", that counts. They have to sign the NLI, entering into a contract with the school for the scholarship. You can then say "Suzy will be on scholarship to play volleyball at State U." and after the school has received the NLI, the coach is free to comment about the athlete.

 

[GB-Hack]

Soccer player in my area is doing something like that, except he's graduating early. Seems like a great plan if you can pull it off. Jump into spring practices, get your feet wet, learn the ropes of college classes/assignments before you're in season, get a jump on the freshmen arriving over the summer.

We've had some soccer players from the area do this, one at UNC.

I think it's a lot more popular thing for football players to do so they can attend spring practices.

 

[Mighty_Wingman]

If the player does not sign a National Letter of Intent to play for a school, he/she is considered a walk-on or non-scholarship player.

I'm not sure this part of an otherwise helpful post is true. It's my understanding that players can receive scholarships without signing National Letters of Intent, though it's true the school can't discuss recruits by name until they've either signed an NLI or enrolled, whichever happens first.

 

[wickedwritah]

Kids in these situations also often get partial tuition waivers, meaning they'll pay in-state tuition and fees, even if they're out-of-state kids. Happens at a lot of Division II schools.

 

[Cadet]

A very good resource for these questions, including grayshirting, is the FAQ section at www.national-letter.org.

# If I am going to walk on to the team, may I sign a National Letter of Intent?

No. An institution is strictly prohibited from allowing you to sign a National Letter of Intent if you are a non-scholarship walk-on. In order for a National Letter of Intent it be considered valid, it must be accompanied by an athletics financial aid award letter, which lists the terms and conditions of the award, including the amount and duration of the financial aid. The athletics financial aid offer must be signed by both the student and his or her parent or legal guardian. Simply put, there must be an athletics scholarship for a National Letter of Intent to be valid.