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Bronco77

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Interested in hearing some opinions about this hypothetical sports copy desk situation (similar scenarios could occur in just about any workplace).

Employee A is a veteran sports copy editor. While still reasonably competent, he is getting up in years and has, in baseball parlance, lost something off his fastball. He's prone to occasional mistakes, as well as letting reporting errors slip through, though it's not a repeated pattern. But he remains steady and reliable and has taken on some of his desk's most unpleasant duties in an attempt to keep his job as long as possible. He's also well-read with a background in many other aspects of newspaper work besides sports copy editing, with much "institutional knowledge" of sports and many other subjects. He is among the quieter people on his desk, generally keeping to himself.

Employee B is much younger (mid-20s) and actually an ex-employee -- laid off a few months ago. He had potential, but probably would have started at a much smaller paper back in the day. While employed, he established himself as a very good fact-checker and grammarian -- but at the expense of speed and productivity (if he handled a story on deadline, the section was almost certain to go in late). When occasionally assigned some of the unpleasant duties Employee A took on, he complained about it and showed what might be termed an entitlement mentality.

Then there's Employee C, also a veteran sports copy editor but about 10 years younger than Employee A. While not a supervisor, he is one of the desk's stars -- an excellent content editor who mostly handles high-profile NFL and college football stories -- but he knows it and often comes across as cocky. Nor would he ever willingly take on the type of menial work Employee A handles. He was friendly with Employee B and served as something of a mentor to him. Employee C also has made it clear over the years that he's not a fan of Employee A, occasionally treating him with scorn and calling him out in front of co-workers over mistakes.

Through several reliable sources, it's recently come to Employee A's attention that Employee C has told co-workers the paper laid off the wrong person -- Employee B should have been kept, Employee A should have been let go. Employee A is deeply wounded and angry. His first impulse was to confront Employee C. But he's nonconfrontational and does not relish the idea of such a discussion. He also realizes that if he confronts Employee C, he might not be operating from a position of strength.

The question: If in Employee A's shoes, would you call aside Employee C for a "friendly" discussion? Or would you let it pass and just keep going about your business to the best of your ability?

Or, going down a different road, would you, indeed, have laid off Employee A instead of Employee B?
 
I'd talk it over with my manager and ask where I stand in his or her view.

No point in any confrontation, especially when team spirit counts so much these days.
If your manager is any good, he or she can call C aside and tell C to focus on his own ****ing work.
 
If you're in your mid-20s, a few years out of college, and are still slow on deadline and complain, yet somehow have an entitled mentality, you probably shouldn't have been spared.
 
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A and C are getting laid off Christmas Eve when the desk gets outsourced to Gatehouse. The end.

Yes, that's probably where it's headed. Either the jobs are outsourced, or Gannett buys the paper and sends the work to one of its design studios. Doesn't matter whether people like each other or not, because they all go down the drain together.
 
Whoever decided which guy to lay off certainly had a hell of a lot more information than we do, so I'm not going to question that decision. That said, it does sound like Employee B got what he deserved. Making deadlines is a huge part of the business and being late can cost the company money. From the initial post, it sounds like this was a pattern of getting work done late, not just a few incidents by Employee B.

I really don't see the point of Employee A confronting Employee C. Employee C sounds like an asshole. The only reason to get into a conflict at work is if you can change things for the better. I doubt an asshole like C is going to change anything just because a guy he doesn't like say something. Of course, this is easy to say from a distance. I certainly got into a few unpleasant discussions I should have avoided when I worked in journalism.
 
For three years, 15 of us worked with a dagger over our heads. We knew the axe was going to drop, we just didn't know how long it would take. (It took until June 2016.)

Here's the one thing we learned: If things are that bleak anyway, the last thing you need to inject into it is newsroom drama. The executives provide enough of that with their very presence. You need to get along with each other.

Employee A needs to do everything he can to co-exist with Employee C. This isn't to say that C wasn't being an asshole. But if it becomes a completely adversarial relationship, it's just going to be another reason to dread going into the office each day. Which is the last thing anyone needs.

And Employee B is a nonfactor in the whole deal. He's gone.
 
Also, is it common at larger papers to specialize within a department w/r/t the stories you read? Where I've been you grabbed the next story in the que or proof on the table.
 
Also, is it common at larger papers to specialize within a department w/r/t the stories you read? Where I've been you grabbed the next story in the que or proof on the table.

Often the sports slot would put together a duty roster that would list that night's assignments. Most desks usually did have some specialists. Also, the assignments frequently were based on seniority and experience. At the first big paper I worked for, the local NFL team was a dynasty and the be-all-end-all. For the first year I was there, I wasn't assigned any stories on the team except for Sunday game days, when the volume of copy was so overwhelming that everyone had to pitch in.

Also, a copy editor might express a preference for handling or not handling a certain type of story. For instance, when I was a metro desk slot, one of the guys came to me and said he preferred not to handle education stories. I'd usually honor such requests. My only rule of thumb was that everyone had to edit his/her fair share of the really grim stuff, such as stories on murders or sexual assaults.
 
Also, is it common at larger papers to specialize within a department w/r/t the stories you read? Where I've been you grabbed the next story in the que or proof on the table.
The way we always did it, dixie, was that the ASE or myself would plan the section and assign the pages. The slot man, of course, getting the section front and the jump page. Then you go out and get what you need for your page(s). If any adjustments needed to be made for breaking news, the slot man would communicate the changes with any editors on affected pages.

I certainly believe what Bronco said about copy editors asking to be steered away from certain stories, but with our five-person desk, it never came up to my knowledge. We just took what was on our pages and went with it.
 
Well, when we got our pages, we did it all for that page. First read, design, paginate. Then have another editor proof your page at the end.

When we changed over to a universal desk, the roles became more specialized. Curators were the copy editors. Page designers were page designers. One or the other would have planning responsibilities for the day.

For sports, anyway, I much preferred the old method.
 
A and C should quit being whiny ass babies. The day a manager has to referee petty disagreements between adults in the workplace is the day they get serious sit-down discussion about adulthood and workplace manners.
 
Employee D, the new hire, is a USC grad.
Don't **** with him. He'll kill you dead.
 
A and C should quit being whiny ass babies.

In the interest of full disclosure, "A" is a longtime friend, co-worker and confidant of mine. I'm definitely prejudiced here, but I'm not sure it's fair to characterize him as a "whiny ass baby" -- it wasn't his choice to be a newsroom gunner's target, and I'm pretty sure the only person he's "whined" to at this point is me. He has no intention of going to the manager (whose plate is awfully full already). Now, if you say he needs to develop a thicker skin, or be more diligent about checking his work so that "C" has less reason to criticize him, those certainly are valid points.

But again, it probably makes no difference in the long run. We're all headed out the door, probably sooner rather than later, and our options are to find another job in a business with a better future or hope our retirement portfolios double or triple in value overnight.
 

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