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So as opposed to using the full operating rules of the English language, you are applying a journalistic subset of those rules - a style?
 
Making a judgment call, which was my contention all along.
Documents don't speak. They suggest, indicate, etc.
While we're on that, 'show' is a weak verb to use within that context.
Word choice is everything.
 
3_Octave_Fart said:
Making a judgment call, which was my contention all along.

A whim?
You seem to have a very permissive attitude toward language.
 
Fart was trained that every word needs to earn its weight.
You want to pull a trope out of your ass and defend it because you've become lazy.
 
Obviously, I can't compete with your training and award-winning talent.

I'm simply saying you don't seem to have a codified approach to editing. You edit based on whim.
 
Saw something in the Chiefs story on the KC Star that, while technically not a word I hate, it's something I hate that professional journalists should know better.

"...Fitzpatrick as he avoided a sack and cutback across the field ..."

If it's a noun, it's cutback. If it's a verb, it's two words: cut back.

Same for hundreds of other words that I see on a daily basis misused by even the top writers.
 
HandsomeHarley said:
Saw something in the Chiefs story on the KC Star that, while technically not a word I hate, it's something I hate that professional journalists should know better.

"...Fitzpatrick as he avoided a sack and cutback across the field ..."

If it's a noun, it's cutback. If it's a verb, it's two words: cut back.

Same for hundreds of other words that I see on a daily basis misused by even the top writers.

"Kickoff" gets the same treatment.
 
HandsomeHarley said:
Same for hundreds of other words that I see on a daily basis misused by even the top writers.
Writers write, editors edit. Don't confuse the two. I work with some great writers...but they don't know style or proper usage. I know some OK writers that are good self-editors though, and their copy is the one I would rather read sometimes.
 
HandsomeHarley said:
Saw something in the Chiefs story on the KC Star that, while technically not a word I hate, it's something I hate that professional journalists should know better.

"...Fitzpatrick as he avoided a sack and cutback across the field ..."

If it's a noun, it's cutback. If it's a verb, it's two words: cut back.

Same for hundreds of other words that I see on a daily basis misused by even the top writers.

Your grammar is not good. Please reconsider criticizing others'.
 
spikechiquet said:
HandsomeHarley said:
Same for hundreds of other words that I see on a daily basis misused by even the top writers.
Writers write, editors edit. Don't confuse the two. I work with some great writers...but they don't know style or proper usage. I know some OK writers that are good self-editors though, and their copy is the one I would rather read sometimes.

I agree. Mastering one's native language is a lot to ask of the talent.
 
HandsomeHarley said:
Saw something in the Chiefs story on the KC Star that, while technically not a word I hate, it's something I hate that professional journalists should know better.

"...Fitzpatrick as he avoided a sack and cutback across the field ..."

If it's a noun, it's cutback. If it's a verb, it's two words: cut back.

Same for hundreds of other words that I see on a daily basis misused by even the top writers.

Maybe he avoided the cutback. Could be referring to the Titans working out other QBs.
 
News side at my daily paper uses "is to" where "will" will do, such "The city council is to meet Monday" instead of "The city council will meet Monday."

I also detest "would" instead of "did" in stories, such as "Jackson would run 80 yards for a touchdown." I hear this a lot on the radio when they're talking about a game.
 
Steak Snabler said:
spikechiquet said:
HandsomeHarley said:
Same for hundreds of other words that I see on a daily basis misused by even the top writers.
Writers write, editors edit. Don't confuse the two. I work with some great writers...but they don't know style or proper usage. I know some OK writers that are good self-editors though, and their copy is the one I would rather read sometimes.

I agree. Mastering one's native language is a lot to ask of the talent.

It's not too much to ask writers to work hard at writing well, and writing better.

The desk would like to evolve past fixing the same silly mistakes every night.
 
fossywriter8 said:
News side at my daily paper uses "is to" where "will" will do, such "The city council is to meet Monday" instead of "The city council will meet Monday."

It should be, "The city council meets Monday."
 
Versatile said:
fossywriter8 said:
News side at my daily paper uses "is to" where "will" will do, such "The city council is to meet Monday" instead of "The city council will meet Monday."

It should be, "The city council meets Monday."

Shouldn't it be, "The city council is scheduled to meet on Monday?" There's no way for the reporter to know for sure on, say, Friday, whether the meeting will actually take place.

Unless he's Mitch Albom watching Michigan alumni at the Final Four. :-\
 
I don't think so, for the same reason you don't have to say "he said he thinks" in most usages. Readers may not be smart, but they can pick up on some things.
 
t should be, "The city council meets Monday."

That construction should be reserved for regular, repeating actions. Not for specific ones. Aspect matters.

"The council meets on Mondays" . . . but "The council will meet Monday to discuss . . . "
 
Riptide said:
Steak Snabler said:
spikechiquet said:
HandsomeHarley said:
Same for hundreds of other words that I see on a daily basis misused by even the top writers.
Writers write, editors edit. Don't confuse the two. I work with some great writers...but they don't know style or proper usage. I know some OK writers that are good self-editors though, and their copy is the one I would rather read sometimes.

I agree. Mastering one's native language is a lot to ask of the talent.

It's not too much to ask writers to work hard at writing well, and writing better.

The desk would like to evolve past fixing the same silly mistakes every night.

Sorry. Didn't think I needed blue font there.
 

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