Woman mauled by her pit bulls; friends don't believe story

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Unlike Rotts and other 'scary' breeds, pitbulls are much more likely to be poorly and inexpertly bred.
They're among the least likely breeds to be spayed and neutered, so there are a lot of them.
A properly bred, trained and raised pitbull is fine. I have zero problem with the breed as a whole.
The problems are the owners.

FYI, I am not a pitbull owner.
I have a German short-hair pointer who has an excellent disposition despite a disturbing fixation on annexing the Sudetenland.
 
Unlike Rotts and other 'scary' breeds, pitbulls are much more likely to be poorly and inexpertly bred.
They're among the least likely breeds to be spayed and neutered, so there are a lot of them.
A properly bred, trained and raised pitbull is fine. I have zero problem with the breed as a whole.
The problems are the owners.

FYI, I am not a pitbull owner.
I have a German short-hair pointer who has an excellent disposition despite a disturbing fixation on annexing the Sudetenland.

I have two dogs; I had an aversion to pitbulls for a long time, then my cousin, a vet had one when we visited and she was the sweetest thing. Then my neighbor brought a stray pit puppy home and she is also so sweet. In the past three years, I love her and have no hesitation letting her lick my face and petting her. She loves my two dogs too. Its upbringing not breed IMHO.
 
I have two dogs; I had an aversion to pitbulls for a long time, then my cousin, a vet had one when we visited and she was the sweetest thing. Then my neighbor brought a stray pit puppy home and she is also so sweet. In the past three years, I love her and have no hesitation letting her lick my face and petting her. She loves my two dogs too. Its upbringing not breed IMHO.

It's not just a question of upbringing vs. breed, though -- it's more upbringing vs breeding. They are commonly bred to be fighting dogs. If a cute sweet little pit puppy comes from a line of fighters, that puppy is going to be a problem.

Put it this way -- I've had two purebred border collies. One was a rescue from an asshole breeder. The other came from a farmer.

The one from the farm we adopted at six weeks. Put him with a group of anything -- cats, ducks, other dogs at a dog park -- he'd herd them like crazy. Like, the other dogs would end up in a tight little pack. He had no training or experience doing it, but he came from a line of herding dogs. He couldn't help it.

The rescue dog has no herding instinct at all. He's a smart dog, but the herding instinct has been totally bred out of him.
 
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All these large dog breeds are the sweetest, gentlest, most loyal creatures until the one day they aren’t.
 
I have two dogs; I had an aversion to pitbulls for a long time, then my cousin, a vet had one when we visited and she was the sweetest thing. Then my neighbor brought a stray pit puppy home and she is also so sweet. In the past three years, I love her and have no hesitation letting her lick my face and petting her. She loves my two dogs too. Its upbringing not breed IMHO.

Wanna bet on that?
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This is largely how I feel. I like dogs. I think pit bulls are great-looking, athletic dogs, and can be great pets. I wish they didn't have the reputation they have, and realize that in many cases, it amounts to unfair characterization. Still, in some significantly deadly instances, that rep/bad rap is well deserved reality, and so, I would never own one. I just wouldn't want the responsibility, and that policy would go double if I had small children around.

This story brought to mind another about pet pit bulls that I read years ago. A young man left his two beloved pit bulls with his beloved grandmother for a weekend. The dogs knew her, and they had all spent time together previously, with no indications of what was to come.

The guy came home and went to pick up his dogs. They had attacked and killed his grandmother. Destroyed by what he saw and what his dogs had done, the owner had the dogs put down as soon as the investigation of the case was completed.

This is such a great post. The dogs ate the guy’s grandma, and it’s played as a devastating coda that he was so distraught that made the difficult decision to put the dogs down.

(Well. Eventually.)

Dude, they ate his grandma. Was Option B Frisbee at the park?
 
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All these SJ posters are the sweetest, gentlest, most loyal creatures until the one day they aren’t.

Slightly modified that. I've always wondered how good posters go bad.

Nevermind. I'm just doddering off again.
 
I had an aversion to pitbulls for a long time, then my cousin, a vet had one when we visited and she was the sweetest thing. Then my neighbor brought a stray pit puppy home and she is also so sweet. In the past three years, I love her and have no hesitation letting her lick my face and petting her. She loves my two dogs too. Its upbringing not breed IMHO.

Oh really? Here's a list of the date and reported breed for every fatal dog attack over the last year:

Apr 6, 2 pit bulls
May 25, 3 pit bulls
June 1, American Pit Bull Terrier
August 7, Pit bull
October 21, Pit bull
November 4, Pit bull and mixed breed dog
November 29, 4 pit bulls
December 1, 2 pit bulls and 1 german shepherd
December 7, 5 pit bulls
December 11, Pit bull
December 14, 2 pit bulls
Fatal dog attacks in the United States - Wikipedia

Notice a pattern? Every single one was the work of pit bulls. Sorry, but "breed" has a ton to do with it. I'm sure there are also golden retrievers who had ****ty "upbringings", but we don't see them mauling anyone.
 
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Regularly see pit bulls running loose in my neighborhood/area, and they have killed several pets. Something bad is going to happen to a human at some point, just a matter of time.
 
We did not train our goldendoodle diligently enough when he was young and malleable (in part because we had our second child when he was a year old) and he bites when he gets too excited. But it’s nothing truly dangerous - mostly just mouthing. It pisses that same child off and the dog does knock him down sometimes, but that’s mostly a function of him still being bigger than the boy. Everyone else can handle it easily, and they’re not anger bites.

Our previous dog, a spaniel mix, was more aggressive and bit our older son in the face, badly enough to send him to the emergency room, when our son was 1. (Thank god, no permanent damage aside from a very faint scar on his nose.) We gave him to a family friend. He died about a month ago. He was a great dog - until that incident, I liked him a whole lot more than I do our current one - but he had to go at that point.
 
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This is such a great post. The dogs ate the guy’s grandma, and it’s played as a devastating coda that he was so distraught that made the difficult decision to put the dogs down.

(Well. Eventually.)

Dude, they ate his grandma. Was Option B Frisbee at the park?

Well, daahh...

The post wasn't "played" at all. The guy did exactly as I'd think any other normal person would've done. It's just another example I brought up that stuck with me. I read that story as a teenager. I'm a middle-aged adult now. I was close to my grandparents and could never imagine such a demise for any of them. Hence, I have never -- ever -- forgotten that story. And I could be somebody who could like pit bulls.

You simply don't know how to "read" posts, I guess. Or, as I always think, you just pretend you don't, for my particular "benefit."
 
This is such a great post. The dogs ate the guy’s grandma, and it’s played as a devastating coda that he was so distraught that made the difficult decision to put the dogs down.

(Well. Eventually.)

Dude, they ate his grandma. Was Option B Frisbee at the park?

Dog eats my grandma, that dog lives exactly as long as it takes me to load the shotgun and chamber the first shell.
 
This is such a great post. The dogs ate the guy’s grandma, and it’s played as a devastating coda that he was so distraught that made the difficult decision to put the dogs down.

(Well. Eventually.)

Dude, they ate his grandma. Was Option B Frisbee at the park?

That or call Mike Vick.
 

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