Which players/coaches/executives have gotten the most others into halls of fame?

[3_Octave_Fart]

Vinny Cerrato brought up an interesting point in preview of the latest Manning-Brady matchup.
Their consistency has paved the way for a lot of jobs for personnel guys and executives.
Brady's success is responsible for a big chunk of the Belichick coaching tree.

 

[Dick Whitman]

Re: Which players have gotten the most others into halls of fame?

Frankie Frisch.

 

[Starman]

Re: Which players have gotten the most others into halls of fame?

By association (through Frisch), John McGraw.

Halas, who started as a player, obviously had a huge influence who got into the PFHOF.

Jerry West selected a lot of HOFers in the NBA.

 

[LongTimeListener]

Re: Which players have gotten the most others into halls of fame?

Jack Morris. Or Tim Hudson.

 

[Starman]

Re: Which players have gotten the most others into halls of fame?

Russell, as a player, probably got five or six Celtics in who wouldn't have made it on their own playing merits.

Cousy and Havlicek, of course, would have made it under their own power, but most all of the other 60s Celtics players got in mainly riding on Russell's back. If they were playing for some other teams, probably not.

You could argue Bird did the same in the 1980s.

 

[3_Octave_Fart]

Re: Which players have gotten the most others into halls of fame?

Amended to players, coaches and executives.

-Sid Gillman
-Bill Walsh
-Joe Montana

 

[Starman]

Obviously from the post above, Red Auerbach, who pulled fairly-similar draft scams to nab both Russell in 1956 and Bird in 1979, setting up both of the dynasty decades for the franchise.

From those two deals, the Celtics probably put a dozen guys in the HOF.

NFL division: Paul Brown.

 

[heyabbott]

Vince Lombardi, Miller Huggins and Casey Stengall

 

[Stoney]

You could argue Bird did the same in the 1980s.

This one popped in my head as well. I don't think there's any way Parish or Dennis Johnson would've gotten in if they hadn't teamed with Bird. Hell, Parish was largely regarded as a bust his first four years in Golden State, then he moved to beantown and looked like an entirely different player when he teamed with Bird. And DJ had a bit of a rep as a malcontent before moving to Boston.

McHale's a tougher call. I'm sure a low post scorer that talented would've racked up huge numbers anywhere, but then again, he probably would've been perceived quite differently if he's been the high scoring gawky big man on ****ty clipper teams, instead of winning titles with Bird in Boston.

 

[Michael_ Gee]

McHale might've won scoring titles with another team, and who's to say he'd have spent his whole career with a loser? Dennis Johnson had been a star with another NBA championship team when he went to Boston. It works both ways, you know. Who's to say how many titles Bird would have won without them?
PS: Something like five of the nine or 10 Hall of Famers from Lombardi's Packers were on the roster of the 1-12-1 team he inherited in 1959. And Paul Brown created so many Hall of Famers he actually traded of them early in their careers, Doug Atkins and Henry Jordan. who Brown traded to Lombardi prior to the '59 season.

 

[3_Octave_Fart]

Same with Noll's 1971 team.
Six Hall of Famers on that roster for a team that went 6-8.

 

[RecoveringJournalist]

Dwyane Wade will get LeBron in.

 

[RecoveringJournalist]

I don't know how many players those guys will get into the HOF, but how many offensive assistants have gotten head coaching jobs as a result of working directly with one of them?

Weis, McDaniels, O'Brien, McCoy, Caldwell, Arians... I'm sure there are more.

 

[3_Octave_Fart]

Even some of Belichick's lesser minds- Mangini and Schwartz- broke the head coaching ranks.
That doesn't happen if Drew Bledsoe doesn't get knocked out of a game by Mo Lewis.

 

[Songbird]

Even some of Belichick's lesser minds- Mangini and Schwartz- broke the head coaching ranks.
That doesn't happen if Drew Bledsoe doesn't get knocked out of a game by Mo Lewis.

*That* would be a great sports story: What if _______ didn't happen.

 

[Dick Whitman]

Off topic, the Mike & Mike interview with Belichik this morning was the most awkward television I've ever seen. Greenberg was dressed up as Tom Brady. Golic was dressed up as Belichick.

Toward the end of the interview, they asked him about the mayor who died.

Belichick says something like, "We weren't close. It's sad, though."

Then they ask him about LeBron's return to Cleveland, and what it's like as a coach to navigate such side shows. He answers something like, "I'm not close to that situation. I'd prefer not to comment." Golic stammers and starts to try to explain to him that it's just a general question about coaching through distractions, I think is where he was going to go with it, but Greenberg rescued him.

Belichick has to be the most miserable person on the planet. He really does.

 

[Michael_ Gee]

In his regular Friday presser this morning, Belichick ripped New England weathermen as incompetents. Geez, does he grade out the recipe segments in the TV news, too?

 

[3_Octave_Fart]

Because he just doesn't give a **** about media, ****.
He will get excited if the media ask him something he deems interesting- such as the evolution of the tight end or history of the PAT.
If you watch A Football Life he shows some measure of charm.

 

[Dick Whitman]

Because he just doesn't give a **** about media, ****.
He will get excited if the media asks him something he deems interesting- such as the evolution of the tight end or history of the PAT.
If you watch A Football Life he shows some measure of charm.

I don't even know if it's that. I don't think he understand the questions. I don't think he grasps that they are softballs. He's like "Rainman."

 

[Michael_ Gee]

Actually, I think it was the specific question. Belichick's more than sharp enough to know what Golic meant, and when he hears "distractions" he naturally thinks "my tight end who got arrested for multiple homicides." No way he's steering near that rock.