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No, really. All of them. Facebook, MySpace (if anybody still uses that), Yahoo, Google, any online forums you participate in (like, say, SportsJournalists.com) ... the works.<blockquote>Officials who run the city of Bozeman, Montana -- perhaps setting a new standard for privacy invasion in the name of public safety -- are insisting that job applicants cough up their usernames and passwords for any social networking sites or online forums in which they participate. Reason: background checks.

From a report on Montana's News Station:

The requirement is included on a waiver statement applicants must sign, giving the City permission to conduct an investigation into the person's "background, references, character, past employment, education, credit history, criminal or police records."<blockquote>"Please list any and all, current personal or business websites, web pages or memberships on any Internet-based chat rooms, social clubs or forums, to include, but not limited to: Facebook, Google, Yahoo, YouTube.com, MySpace, etc.," the City form states. There are then three lines where applicants can list the Web sites, their user names and log-in information and their passwords.</blockquote>Beyond the pale, you say? Not according to Bozeman city attorney Greg Sullivan, who defended the policy after assuring the television station that "the city takes privacy rights very seriously." (Understanding them is another matter.)</blockquote>http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/42819

Of course, handing over those passwords will usually put you in violation of those services' terms of service.
 
With the number of people yearning to work in Bozeman, they can afford to do this.
 
I hope every applicant to the city of Bozeman tells them to go 'F' themselves.

What would prevent them from taking an applicant's username and password and stealing their identity? They could post on an applicant's Facebook page something that could be slanderous to another person.
 
If they actually used the info, I think they'd be violating some internet hacking laws.
 
Surely someone's going to say, "Well if you've done nothing wrong............"
 
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Just give them bogus usernames and passwords. "Heywood Jablome," "Hugh G. Rection," etc etc.
 
My response would be that I do not participate in such activities. How are they going to prove otherwise?
 
buckweaver said:
pressboxer said:
My response would be that I do not participate in such activities. How are they going to prove otherwise?

Ding ding ding.

Simply typing the person's name into the website's search engine could work wonders.

Is it likely that, even after answering 'No' that they'll search? Probably not.

But the tool is there.
 
I can honestly tell you that my name won't show up on anything like Facebook or MySpace.
 
pressboxer said:
I can honestly tell you that my name won't show up on anything like Facebook or MySpace.

Oh, not singling you out. I use Facebook and so if you typed my full name into the engine, you will find me. After graduating college, I deleted all my pictures and groups that showed or depicted any use of alcohol.
 
I'm not one to bring politics into every discussion, but...

I've known other areas of the country -- I currently live in one -- that swing highly one way politically and want to make sure it stays that way. So if you're a "fan" of a politician who is in the minority of a state's voting record, you may find yourself out in the cold when it comes to getting a job there.
Even more so if you're not a native.
 
MU_was_not_so_hard said:
I'm not one to bring politics into every discussion, but...

I've known other areas of the country -- I currently live in one -- that swing highly one way politically and want to make sure it stays that way. So if you're a "fan" of a politician who is in the minority of a state's voting record, you may find yourself out in the cold when it comes to getting a job there.
Even more so if you're not a native.

That's certainly a valid point.

Beyond the privacy issues, there is fertile ground for discrimination based on someone's political, religious, social beliefs. It's just another tool of the "politically correct" to attempt to insure that no one who holds an opposing view is in any position of power. The next step will be some sort of political idealogical "litmus test" to see if one is "qualified" for a certain job.

Oh, well, I'm not worried. Just not going to play those sort of games.
 
JR said:
Surely someone's going to say, "Well if you've done nothing wrong............"

I never had a problem with the "Well if you've done nothing wrong............" line for employer drug testing. Its an illegal activity.

This thread, however, is something different. It is ridiculous. For the record, I don't belong to any social networking sites, except my platinum membership to hornyteachernews.com.
 
Mark2010 said:
Beyond the privacy issues, there is fertile ground for discrimination based on someone's political, religious, social beliefs. It's just another tool of the "politically correct" to attempt to insure that no one who holds an opposing view is in any position of power. The next step will be some sort of political idealogical "litmus test" to see if one is "qualified" for a certain job.

What do you mean "the next step?" This is common practice for many government jobs and has been for a long time.
 
I recall just shortly after Obama was elected that people could apply for positions. On the application is specifically asked for all usernames and pseudonyms used for social network sites and message boards. It did not ask for passwords.
 
Well, I guess this would fall about no. 995 on the list of reasons why I wouldn't want to work in Bozeman.

Looks to me like they're trying to build up their Luddite population.
 
This is just further proof that Missoula is vastly superior to Bozeman.

Better college football (without drug murders even!), cheaper housing (Bozeman's prices aren't far off Boston's), cheaper skiing, better bars and you don't have to turn over your passwords!
 

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