British Open I think has 10 courses in its rotation, and that'd be fine for the U.S. Open. Put Torrey in that rotation. Go with nine and throw in a place you usually don't go. Like L.A. Country Club in 2023. Or The Country Club in Brookline.
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I liked Bethpage but it looks like they've now gotten in bed with the PGA.
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Disagree strongly. Shipnuck's piece on Chambers this week laid out a great case for why they should go back.
Chambers Bay, One Year Later: Lessons Learned From Its 2015 Debut on the Big Stage
Our national championship should not be played at places where it takes $1 million to be a member. I believe every course in the R&A rotation except Muirfield can be played by the public, even if it costs a fortune, despite the fact that most are "private" courses.
The Masters is the Masters. They can do whatever they like, and so can the PGA, frankly. They are invites.
But our public championship should be different. Sure, it costs $600 to play Pebble, but you can technically play it. Same with Whistling. Same with Kiawah.
Screw all these courses with all their stuffy ass traditions. Give me Bethpage, Pebble, Chambers, Pinehurst No.2, Erin Hills, Whistling, Kiawah, and if you can fit corporate tents and figure out parking, give one to Shadow Creek of French Lick or Streamsong.
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Cherry Hills?
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It seems like the US Open pretty muchs uses the same course anyway.
Yeah, every so often there's a Chambers Bay, but for last 30 years or so, it's the largely the pulled from the same dozen or so courses.
Several courses: Bethpage, Pebble, Pinehurst and Oakmont hosted the Open twice within 10-year spans. Not saying that's a bad thing, just saying.
My 10 in no particular order:
Bethpage
Pebble
Pinehurst
Winged Foot
Whistling Straits
Medinah
Hazeltine
Olympic
Cherry Hills - great call Chef!
Either: Muirfield Village, Doral or Colonial.
I think there's a bit of east coast bias when it comes to the US Open. Since 2000, 10 of them have been on the east coast.
FWIW... There hasn't been an open in Texas in decades.
Buddy of mine and his group went to Pinehurst in March to play. They walked onto No. 2 and played for just shy of $500 a man. He said it was worth every penny.
Yeah, every so often there's a Chambers Bay, but for last 30 years or so, it's the largely the pulled from the same dozen or so courses.
Several courses: Bethpage, Pebble, Pinehurst and Oakmont hosted the Open twice within 10-year spans. Not saying that's a bad thing, just saying.
My 10 in no particular order:
Bethpage
Pebble
Pinehurst
Winged Foot
Whistling Straits
Medinah
Hazeltine
Olympic
Cherry Hills - great call Chef!
Either: Muirfield Village, Doral or Colonial.
I think there's a bit of east coast bias when it comes to the US Open. Since 2000, 10 of them have been on the east coast.
FWIW... There hasn't been an open in Texas in decades.
Buddy of mine and his group went to Pinehurst in March to play. They walked onto No. 2 and played for just shy of $500 a man. He said it was worth every penny.
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Is there a course on Texas that is worthy of the Open? Whispering Pines, but it's never held a major tournament there. Austin Country Club is cool, but not sure I'd think of it as one of the country's great tracks. Dallas National is boring.
Frankly, it was fun to see the LPGA play Salahee this week. Those trees are gorgeous, and it requires shotshaping, not bomb and gouge.
Frankly, it was fun to see the LPGA play Salahee this week. Those trees are gorgeous, and it requires shotshaping, not bomb and gouge.
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I'm going to be very very interested to see how stupid the USGA gets next year with Erin Hills.
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Yeah, I enjoyed the watching the women's U.S. Open there.
I'd also like to see an LPGA event at Augusta.
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How about at the course beside it? Is it Augusta CC???
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Given your unhealthy man crush on Sergio, I'd thought you'd be on the Colonial bandwagon.
But yeah, surprisingly, I can't think of any really nice Texas courses.
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No.
Come on, man.... I wanna see the LPGA's best tackle Amen Corner.
Augusta CC would be a cruel joke.
LPGA to Kristie Kerr: hey, we're putting Augusta Georgia on the schedule next year.
Kerr: Really? Augusta National?!?
LPGA: um.... Not exactly....
Kerr: ****.
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Open is coming back to Country Club in 2022, or so it's said. Two things have altered the US Open rota. 1. Private clubs like the Country Club think it's too much trouble and that the USGA creates bad blood with other area clubs and public courses through its high-handed manner. 2. PGA of America has snaffled up some of the more traditional Open sites, such as Oakland Hills, for the PGA-Ryder Cup double.
The reason there aren't any Opens in Texas (or Florida for that matter) is simply the heat.
The reason there aren't any Opens in Texas (or Florida for that matter) is simply the heat.
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True. As much as I'd like to see it, I just don't see them doing a yearly tounahment. What private club is willing to close the course to members for two weeks (tournament weeks, not to mention prep and recovery time), especially when the course is closed as much as it is already? A one-time-only event would be pretty cool.
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Last U.S. Open in Texas: 1969, at Cypress Creek.
Winner: Orvile Moody, who went through qualifying!
Number of other tournaments Moody won before he went to the Senior Tour: Zero
Winner: Orvile Moody, who went through qualifying!
Number of other tournaments Moody won before he went to the Senior Tour: Zero
Would love that but there's no room to get that course to 8,000 yards needed in today's game at 5,400 feet.
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Who the **** wants to play golf in Texas mid-June heat? ****, who the **** wants to WATCH golf in Texas mid-June heat? I was at Southern Hills in 2001. It was unbearable. I do think it should alternate between east and west coast at least.
The USGA can pursue its mission of finding public courses without ever having to go back to the circus course at Chambers Bay.
The course is too easy - Spieth won 275, which is the fourth-lowest total in 25 years. The other three were Tiger at Pebble, Furyk at Olympia Fields and Rory at Congressional.
The latter should never host a major tournament again after what Rory did to it, and I hope it doesn't. I'm pretty damn sure Olympia Fields won't - it's switched to the women's PGA Championship. And Tiger's performance at Pebble is the best tournament of golf any of us are likely to ever see.
Chambers Bay has to be tricked up to not yield a glut of 65s and 66s. It's not worth it. Find somewhere else.
Beyond that...I find it kind of ironic that we have all these hallowed golf courses in America - turf cathedrals - but the one damn tournament that anybody theoretically can play in, that's when we're going to go find some 8-year-old course out in a suburb. I mean, never mind that playing at Oakmont or Shinnecock is an extraordinary reward for making the US Open...
It all seems little like phony PR to me. The vision of one guy who treats the tournament like Oregon's uniforms and spackles an "environmentally friendly" line on it like golf courses are helping restore God's creation to its natural state.
I like my US Open to be the functional equivalent of Michigan vs. USC. Sue me.
The course is too easy - Spieth won 275, which is the fourth-lowest total in 25 years. The other three were Tiger at Pebble, Furyk at Olympia Fields and Rory at Congressional.
The latter should never host a major tournament again after what Rory did to it, and I hope it doesn't. I'm pretty damn sure Olympia Fields won't - it's switched to the women's PGA Championship. And Tiger's performance at Pebble is the best tournament of golf any of us are likely to ever see.
Chambers Bay has to be tricked up to not yield a glut of 65s and 66s. It's not worth it. Find somewhere else.
Beyond that...I find it kind of ironic that we have all these hallowed golf courses in America - turf cathedrals - but the one damn tournament that anybody theoretically can play in, that's when we're going to go find some 8-year-old course out in a suburb. I mean, never mind that playing at Oakmont or Shinnecock is an extraordinary reward for making the US Open...
It all seems little like phony PR to me. The vision of one guy who treats the tournament like Oregon's uniforms and spackles an "environmentally friendly" line on it like golf courses are helping restore God's creation to its natural state.
I like my US Open to be the functional equivalent of Michigan vs. USC. Sue me.
The US Open, in my 50+ years has meant a grinding course, where 4 fters for par is what separate the winners from the rest. At times we get Lucas Glover types, but mostly you get Hale Irwin/Speith/Janzen types., straight guys who get up and down for par. That's what makes the career Grand Slam winners so amazing, they won on all types of courses with the most hype and hardest fields, Masters (aggression with immaculate touch); US Open; the Open (windy adverse conditions with birdies available), PGA (can you go low?).
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