Ugly fan encounter at Eagles-Packers game

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Not sure if this belongs in one of the NFL playoff threads, but haven't seen it on here and it isn't about the game itself, so ...

https://nypost.com/2025/01/14/sport...lgar-rant-share-their-side-of-viral-incident/

Short version: Female Packers fan allegedly harassed by obnoxious Eagles fan, who eventually called her a dumb c-word. All caught on video, and the fan banned from all events at the Linc, and social media tracks down where he works, and he has been fired.

Surprised these actions don't come to light more often, especially at places that take being over-the-top horrific as a badge of honor.
 
NO problem with him being banned from the Linc. The Eagles and the stadium "authorities" do not need him nor his ilk in any way.

Is losing his job for his behavior appropriate? If he is a pastor for a congregation somewhere - - sure. If he is a guy who collects trash for a company with contracts to cover neighborhoods - - not so sure.
 
Not sure where I come down on that.

Looks like he worked for a company that deals in the DEI world, which is interesting, I guess.

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Is the game somehow less enjoyable if you choose not to wear your visiting team colors to that snakepit and thus don't subject yourself to abuse?
 
Is the game somehow less enjoyable if you choose not to wear your visiting team colors to that snakepit and thus don't subject yourself to abuse?

I get wearing your colors if you scored front-row seats and want to be on teevee, but not up where they were. Not excusing the c-word of course, but have a little bit of street smarts.
 
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I'd never go to Philadelphia (or really any venue) as a visiting fan, wearing team colors or no. There's no way for it to be enjoyable.

But the flip side, is the game somehow less enjoyable if you refrain from harassing and calling a female fan a dumb c-word just because she wears the colors of the opposing team?

It smacks of the "If you don't want to be sexually harassed, don't dress like that" philosophy.
 
I get it sounds like that, but every day we are faced with choices. Some are risk/reward choices. What's the reward of wearing visiting colors in Philly vs. the risk? This isn't just walking in the park with a pretty dress on. It's entering a place full of drunk people known for their abusive behavior.

And you're with a woman. The FIRST thing on your mind should be, "I do not want to see her harassed. I'm outnumbered, and I may not be able to protect us.''
 
Is the game somehow less enjoyable if you choose not to wear your visiting team colors to that snakepit and thus don't subject yourself to abuse?
That's another version of a woman deserved to be raped because she wore a tight dress to a bar. Get real. You should be allowed to dress how you want to a game without being called every name in the book.
 
I'm stating how things ARE.

You're stating how things SHOULD BE.

And I'm the one who needs to "get real"? :rolleyes:
 
Assholes should assume every time they’re be an asshole they are being recorded. And it’ll be seen by many. And there will be consequences.

Maybe, just maybe, behaviors will be altered in the future.
 
In 2096 I went to a bar at 10 a.m. to watch the Raiders and Chiefs play. My buddy and everyone else in the place were wearing Raiders colors while I was in my Chiefs shirt. Larry Johnson ran in a touchdown as the clock expired, and I was the only one hooting and hollering. Despite that being a heated rivalry, no one bothered me.
 
I’ve worn Steelers or Penguins gear to a bunch of road games. I know the rules of visiting fandom. I STFU and golf clap if my team does something good. I also try to befriend folks next to me by saying nice things about their city and team. Despite that, I nearly got jumped at Arrowhead.

I don’t have that problem with Sunday Ticket.
 
In 2096 I went to a bar at 10 a.m. to watch the Raiders and Chiefs play. My buddy and everyone else in the place were wearing Raiders colors while I was in my Chiefs shirt. Larry Johnson ran in a touchdown as the clock expired, and I was the only one hooting and hollering. Despite that being a heated rivalry, no one bothered me.

Of course they didn’t bother you. They were wondering why some time traveler in their midst decided to spend his time in the future watching a football game in a bar.
 
In 2096 I went to a bar at 10 a.m. to watch the Raiders and Chiefs play. My buddy and everyone else in the place were wearing Raiders colors while I was in my Chiefs shirt. Larry Johnson ran in a touchdown as the clock expired, and I was the only one hooting and hollering. Despite that being a heated rivalry, no one bothered me.

In 2005, a year the Broncos were really good and went to the AFC championship game, I lived in Omaha and went to the game in Kansas City. Now it was about zero degrees (one of the coldest games I've ever been to) so there was no outerwear Broncos gear.

But I did debate if I should outwardly cheer. That all came crashing to a fast decision when the Broncos broke a long screen pass early in the game. A guy sitting next to us went, let me guess, you're Broncos fans. That's actually one of my best sports memories.

It was a great time, but the Broncos lost a close one.

Visiting fans will always try to see what kind of footing they can get. Most of the people around me at Broncos games are pretty nice. I honestly have never had an issue one way or another.

Philadelphia is obviously a different beast but you can't do that. I don't think he should lose his job but as others have said, everything is recorded now.
 
If I can’t dress up in my team colors and cheer for my guys, then no I’m not interested in attending.

Now are there some places where it is unsafe to do so? Yes, so I don’t go there. (I’ve almost certainly seen my last game at Neyland Stadium, a vow I made after the mustard bottle game.) Also probably explains why I’ve never been to a NFL game unless there was a credential hanging on my neck.
 
I think there’s something about NFL games in particular that bring out the A-hole in some fans.

In the past 15 years, I have attended MLB, college football and NHL games where I was cheering for the visiting team and wearing their gear — either a T-shirt and/or hat. Got some good natured ribbing at times, but nothing nasty. And I didn’t rub anything in either when things went my way.

One of my favorite experiences at an MLB game was when I saw the White Sox play in Seattle in 2010. Me and a few other White Sox fans in our seating area would stand and shout “Konerko” before every pitch of a key late-inning at bat by the Chicago slugger.

After a Mariners reliever struck him out, a whole bunch of Seattle fans stood and shouted his name (“Olson!!”) back at us. Touché!
 
The first NFL game I ever attended was Dolphins-Eagles in 1993...Don Shula breaks George Halas' wins record at the Vet. Bought tickets months ahead of time with my best buddy, who is a Dolphins fan. We met each other on an Amtrak train in NYC and went from there to Philly. No cell phones, no way to communicate if one of us was running late or lost, basically no safety net anywhere. In retrospect, my buddy wearing Dolphins garb into the Vet was the LEAST dumb/dangerous thing we did on that trip! I don't remember any issues with fans but looking back I wonder what the **** we were doing.
 
Baseball games? I feel completely safe wearing Guardians gear. I’ve done it in a dozen ballparks. College football? I root for a MAC team. Either the opposition in conference is thrilled to have sold a ticket or a bogger program doesn’t take you seriously. I once had a charming evening at Neyland surrounded by Vols fans. Add a “State” to my Ohio gear and it is likely a different story. NFL? Too many drunks. I don’t go to away games. And I hate attending NFL games.
 
I like to live in a world where I once didn’t wear Packers colors in the original Cleveland Stadium Dawg Pound for the very reason some have stated here, but also, if I had decided to wear them, not to live in a world where assholes get a free pass because … it’s somehow OK at a game? **** that noise running.

For as much cartoon dislike I’ve expressed here over the Cubs and Cardinals, I’ve never once had an issue inside Busch or Wrigley. (Outside Wrigley, and randomly, Great American Ballpark in Cincinnati for some reason, different story.)

The only issue I ever created was when I was at Jacobs Field in ‘95 to see the Brewers. Pat Listach comes up and, emboldened to give **** to my Cleveland friends I was with, I yelled, “PAT LISTACH! ROOKIE OF THE YEAR!” at the top of the top of my lungs when he came up to bat. Some dude came out of nowhere and was definitely up for curb-stomping my ass to defend the honor of Kenny Lofton, who was by then infamously passed over for ROY in ‘92.

He proceeded to tell me how **** Brewers fans were and how bad attendance at County Stadium was and I told him that was rich coming from a fan of a team on which an entire movie franchise was based on how **** they were. This among other dopey barbs. I was never going to throw any punches, but he might have, so friends on both sides calmed everyone down. Pretty ridiculous behavior on the part of everyone, including myself.

Only “issue” I ever had wearing a Packers sweatshirt was at a Packers-Lions game at the Silverdome in ‘95. I was sitting in the end zone of whatever the middle section was and you could see fights galore breaking out in the upper deck. Lions fan in front of us turned around and said, “See, all of you Packers fans coming here to Detroit starting ****.” I was like, “It takes two to tango, pal” and then shut up before anything kicked off.

I haven’t been to a NFL game as a fan since 2000. Seems way more culty to me in a bad way. People take this **** way too seriously.

And who the **** are these cos-playing assholes dressing up in those garish costumes in camera range? GWAR called, they want their schtick back, and with less NFL-branded fake edginess.
 

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