trying to follow seligian logic

[beardpuller]

OK, let's see if I understand this. Bud Selig decides going into Game 5 he isn't going to accept a six, seven, or eight-inning result. He allows the game to begin, hoping they can play nine, despite the forecast that makes that unlikely.
Soooo, it starts raining like hell in the fourth inning, and Bud knows the forecast is for rain all night ... yet he watches Jimmy Rollins stagger under and drop a popup in the fifth, and Bud has no problem with the Phillies playing the top of the sixth standng in a foot of water.
Somehow, though, once the score is tied, lessening the ****storm he is about to wade into, Bud can't get the tarp on the field fast enough. BJ Upton getting on base on a ball Rollins scoops on a dry infield 999 times out of 1,000, and then scoring the tying run -- that doesn't affect the integrity of the game. Certainly not.
Taking Cole Hamels out of the equation for the remainder of the series, because you sent him out there to pitch on a night you knew was very unlikely to produce a nine-inning game, and thus a result, doesn't affect the integrity of the game.
Ya know, I feel so good knowing this stammering, shambling douchebag with his hand cupped to his ear during press conference is running our national pastime.

Just felt like getting that off my chest.


And yeah, I know there's a 10,000-page running world series thread. I wanted to post this here.

 

[BB Bobcat]

Looks like you got it right to me.

I think they can avoid this problem by saying that in the future, all postseason games are to be suspended if interrupted by rain, rather than being official after five innings. That's what they do in the NCAA postseason (I think) to avoid having an umpires decisions about the weather determine a game.

Can you imagine what a horrible spot that would be for the Selig and/or the umpires to walk out on the field after a two-hour rain delay and say: "That's it, the Phillies win the World Series."

You know those guys were cheering like crazy inside for the Rays to tie that game.

 

[jagtrader]

The game should have been suspended earlier. Of course, Hamels was done either way, so I'm not sure why that is Selig's fault.

 

[beardpuller]

Yeah, Bobcat, just to clarify, I'm not advocating that the game end and the Phils be declared winners. But it was bull**** that they played through a maelstrom ONLY until the Rays tied it.

Jag: Because Selig knew there was very little chance of playing a nine inning game in Philadelphia Monday night. If Hamels -- the most dominant pitcher this postseason -- didn't pitch, he would pitch whenever they actually played the game, instead.

 

[jagtrader]

Yes, but you have to start the game if the weather is OK. You can't postpone it based on the presumption of a rainout just because one team has its ace on the mound.

 

[beardpuller]

Yes, but you have to start the game if the weather is OK. You can't postpone it based on the presumption of a rainout just because one team has its ace on the mound.

I don't know about that. If there's a strong chance --- a really, really strong chance, in this case, from the weather people talking here in Philly -- you aren't going to get the game in ... do you have to start it? Maybe. Maybe not.

 

[Angola!]

can we get a non-philly fanboy to start this thread? jesus.

 

[BitterYoungMatador2]

I'll get blasted for this, but why not move the start time up 90 minutes to, say, 6:30? Yeah, it'll screw up people's plans a bit, but its doable logistically from a fans/ teams/media standpoint. LSU is nice enough to prove it once a year when a hurricane threatens.

 

[beardpuller]

I think that's a good idea, Bitter. But I doubt it fits FOX's agenda.

 

[joe_schmoe]

It's obvious there is only one true solution. Move Game 5 to Miami and make it a home game for the Phillies.

Signed,
A disgruntled Astros fan

 

[Strong Bad]

I'll get blasted for this, but why not move the start time up 90 minutes to, say, 6:30? Yeah, it'll screw up people's plans a bit, but its doable logistically from a fans/ teams/media standpoint. LSU is nice enough to prove it once a year when a hurricane threatens.

You won't get blasted for it. It's what should have happened.

**** Allan Selig with a rusty scythe.

 

[friend of a friend]

I'll get blasted for this, but why not move the start time up 90 minutes to, say, 6:30? Yeah, it'll screw up people's plans a bit, but its doable logistically from a fans/ teams/media standpoint. LSU is nice enough to prove it once a year when a hurricane threatens.

Don't know why you would get blasted for this. It makes sense.

But, since we all know TV runs these things, there's no way it would happen.

 

[BitterYoungMatador2]

And seriously, MLB better come up with a contingency plan for ****ty northeastern weather if they wanna' continue having the World Series running this late into October. I mean, really, with the weather forecasting being what it is and the modern means of communications that we have, there's no reason MLB couldn't have said Sunday night, "Hey, listen ****os, we're starting early tomorrow because of the threat o heavy rain. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 'BOOOOOOOOO!' we get it."

In the past 11 years we've seen snow, extreme cold, rain, more rain and now rain that could back this baby up to Thursday.

 

[mike311gd]

I think there's plenty of reasons to not like Selig. But I don't think this is one of them. And, correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it the crew chief's decision to stop a game due to weather conditions, not the commissioner? I know it is during the regular season. Maybe it changes hands in the postseason, but I doubt it.

I wasn't listening to Bob Dupuy when he was on television, so I didn't hear him say anything but the radar didn't look good for tonight and tomorrow.

 

[friend of a friend]

I think there's plenty of reasons to not like Selig. But I don't think this is one of them. And, correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it the crew chief's decision to stop a game due to weather conditions, not the commissioner? I know it is during the regular season. Maybe it changes hands in the postseason, but I doubt it.

I wasn't listening to Bob Dupuy when he was on television, so I didn't hear him say anything but the radar didn't look good for tonight and tomorrow.

I heard Dupuy say the commissioner and the crew chief decided ......

 

[dooley_womack1]

The game should be continued at Tropicana Field because the AL won the All-Star Game.

 

[mike311gd]

Regardless, this was not a conspiracy. The Phillies are up, 3-1. The only other thing they could do, and they weren't going to start to game any earlier and risk alienating ticket-holders for tonight's -- a potential game-clinching -- game hours prior to the first pitch, was hold it until Thursday. And that wasn't going to happen, either. They'll finish the game tomorrow, the Phillies will likely win, and their fans can begin another 28-year drought.

And the world will be back to normal.

 

[mike311gd]

The game should be continued at Tropicana Field because the AL won the All-Star Game.

Hey, this time, it counts.

 

[Oz]

Yes, but you have to start the game if the weather is OK. You can't postpone it based on the presumption of a rainout just because one team has its ace on the mound.

I don't know about that. If there's a strong chance --- a really, really strong chance, in this case, from the weather people talking here in Philly -- you aren't going to get the game in ... do you have to start it? Maybe. Maybe not.

And if you don't, and then it doesn't rain, good luck handing the PR storm with angry fans who bought tickets, flew in from all parts of the country, reserved hotel rooms and rental cars and might fly out the next day, presuming they would have seen a World Series game because it didn't rain.

 

[bigpern23]

Yes, but you have to start the game if the weather is OK. You can't postpone it based on the presumption of a rainout just because one team has its ace on the mound.

I don't know about that. If there's a strong chance --- a really, really strong chance, in this case, from the weather people talking here in Philly -- you aren't going to get the game in ... do you have to start it? Maybe. Maybe not.

I had tickets to Game 2 of the Yankees Division Series against Detroit in 2006 that got rained out and it barely rained that night. That's because they delayed the start of the game, hoping a bout of rain would pass, pulled the tarp off the field, let everyone warm up and then put it back on. They didn't cancel the game until about 10:30 -- and it didn't rain hard until about 11:30. They likely would have gotten it in had they started it on time. I couldn't make it to the makeup game the next day and got screwed out of seeing a playoff game and I'm sure I was just one of several thousand.

That's why you don't postpone it just on the threat of weather.