Transitioning to family life

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So I'm a relatively new parent - within the last two years. As all of you who are parents know, life changes. It changes suddenly, of course, but it also starts to change over the long-term as your lifestyle segways.

Anyway, I'm just curious to hear some thoughts on how the transition went for others, particularly with friends who aren't married or, in particular, don't have children.

Example:

This coming Sunday, I'm going to an NFL game with my younger brother. He texted and asked if I'd be interested, the day before, in going to another sporting event, as well. I texted back, "Can't do it. I'm already doing something the weekend before with friends. Can't spend that much time away."

His response: "Man up."

He was joking, so I can't get mad at him for being insensitive, but the implication was clear: I'm turning into a henpecked husband who doesn't drink it up with the fellas any more.

On another recent weekend, I left a friend's place on a Saturday morning after an overnight visit and told him I had to get home. His response: "She's the boss." And this is a guy who always says stuff like this, not in a mocking tone, but in a way that is supposed to convey empathy. Which is weird to respond to. When you're in a family, you put your family first. Bottom line.

I'm reminded of that scene in the first season of "Louie," where he has a classmate of his daughters over for the playdate. The mom says, "You're a great dad. You're in the same room with them. That puts you ahead of 99 percent of men. Dads mostly suck."

Anyway, just curious if others have experienced the peer pressure to, well, suck at being a husband and dad. I kind of like settling into this stage of my life. But the late 20s and early 30s are a time when not everyone has yet, and it can be awkward with friendships. How do you guys respond? Even besides peer pressure, did you find the transition difficult? Rewarding?
 
It's a lot easier when the people you hang out with also have kids. Everybody has the single friend or relative that will tease you about doing everything from changing diapers to not being able to go to the bar to watch a game.

If we make plans with friends, we all know that plans can be canceled in a heartbeat if one of the kids are sneezing, coughing, vomiting, irritable, etc...

"Hey, can't make the movie, the baby's sick..."
"That's fine... We know the drill..."

Single guys can't relate to that and they can get pissy about it. Then, as soon as they have kids of their own, they instantly understand.
 
I take it as a simple reminder that there's a healthy balance to be struck.
 
If you just had kids and you don't have a nanny or an in-law staying with you, there is no balance early on. Your world revolves around the kid, as it should... If you do venture out with the boys or to a sporting event, make sure your wife is on board. This has nothing to do with being henpecked or p-whipped or whatever, it's just being courteous and showing your wife that you're not going to bail and go party while she's at home being overwhelmed with a newborn. Obviously, if you're traveling for work, that's a different story...
 
Talking about your feelings because someone told you to "man up"? Sounds like you really do need to man up.
 
I never understood peer pressure. If I don't want to go to a game, I don't. "Manning up" doesn't mean **** to me. My wife allows me to do pretty much anything but as Mizzou says, it is about respect and being courteous. I would rather spend time with my boys and wife. Going to a game can still be fun but I look forward to the day when my boys are old enough to go with me. That is fun and "manning up".
 
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I'm not so much upset about it as I thought it was an American male phenomenon that I thought was worth discussing and swapping stories about.

I particularly find it just ... odd that someone - and this is the kid's uncle - would say, "Man up," as a response to someone opting out of a sporting event to be a father to his child. More than anything, I guess it shows the unbridgeable psychological gulf between dads and non-dads.
 
Or it shows that you have a friend who thinks it is funny to tell you to man up.

Occam's Razor, imo.
 
RickStain said:
Or it shows that you have a friend who thinks it is funny to tell you to man up.

Occam's Razor, imo.

It is definitely not above my brother to push buttons. :)
 
Don't worry about the comments, be secure in yourself. How could your single friends possibly understand something they have not experienced? There is no substitute for seeing your own kid delivered, ever (IMHO). "Manning up?" That's just a catchy phrase for "my life's great, come vindicate me." (I admit though, when my sister(and brother in law) had my nephew and I was single, I did not understand their cancellations due to a "cold, etc.")

Life's about choices, you've made a very significant one. Take heart in that. Congrats to you.
 
The second that kid is born, it's not about you anymore.

It's not a hard transition to that because most of us would go without anything to make sure our kids have everything they need...

I've had to decline invitations to some of the bachelor parties of some of my closest friends. I feel a little guilty because some of these people came to mine, but I really don't feel that guilty about it and I don't feel like I'm missing out on anything. Sorry, but I'm not going to my wife and say, "We're not putting money into the college fund this month, so I can go to Vegas and get drunk with the boys..."

It would never cross my mind to do that.

It's all about the kids and I wouldn't have it any other way...
 
On the other hand, your wife and the kid will make it through a night just fine without you. In fact, it's good for them to learn to manage without you for a few hours. You can instill confidence and independence ... and man-up at the same time.
 
Absolutely... Another way to man up is to take the baby and tell your wife to get out of the house for a few hours so she can do whatever she wants to.
 
Mizzougrad96 said:
Absolutely... Another way to man up is to take the baby and tell your wife to get out of the house for a few hours so she can do whatever she wants to.

If you choose this route, just be sure to air out the kid's clothes before you go home.
 
Yet another instance in which having no friends comes in handy. Easy transition.
 
Mizzougrad96 said:
It's a lot easier when the people you hang out with also have kids. Everybody has the single friend or relative that will tease you about doing everything from changing diapers to not being able to go to the bar to watch a game.

If we make plans with friends, we all know that plans can be canceled in a heartbeat if one of the kids are sneezing, coughing, vomiting, irritable, etc...

"Hey, can't make the movie, the baby's sick..."
"That's fine... We know the drill..."

Single guys can't relate to that and they can get pissy about it. Then, as soon as they have kids of their own, they instantly understand.

Some single sorts already understand. Either because friends got married and had children earlier in life or because of other family commitments. Or both.

The "man up" thing is a childish thing to say to another person. Period. If they don't understand and these are actually to whom you're speaking, I'm not sure you're going to be able to explain your situation in words that the other party will understand. To boot, you don't owe anyone an explanation in the first place.
 
If my younger brother ever told me, even joking, to "man up" ... well, it would never happen. Ever.

One of the perks of being the MUCH older brother. ;)
 
I was one of those single guys who did not understand why my "married with kids" buddies could not come out at least maybe one night a month.

As soon as my daughter arrived 3 years ago everything made sense. I think on one of the threads on here I even took some good natured grief because I said that I wished I had made a bigger deal out of it whem my buddies' kids were born.
 
Thought this was interesting in re: this discussion.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-14880055

Men appear to be biologically wired to care for their babies, say researchers who have discovered levels of testosterone go down after fatherhood.
 
Iron_chet said:
I was one of those single guys who did not understand why my "married with kids" buddies could not come out at least maybe one night a month.

As soon as my daughter arrived 3 years ago everything made sense. I think on one of the threads on here I even took some good natured grief because I said that I wished I had made a bigger deal out of it whem my buddies' kids were born.

That's just it ... You can't, don't and won't understand until it happens to you.
No matter how much you tell someone having a child will change everything it never quite sinks in until it happens.
 

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