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He was taking pictures? Huh?
 
My little one takes pictures. That is not that far out of the question.

The Forum better brace themselves for a hell of a lawsuit.
 
I don't disagree Devil, but it's actually Staples Center now. Lakers abandoned The Fabulous Forum after the 1999 season. I think it was most recently a church.
 
Junkie said:
A lawsuit? Because the parents weren't watching their kid, it's the Forum's fault?
The American way.
 
JC said:
Junkie said:
A lawsuit? Because the parents weren't watching their kid, it's the Forum's fault?
The American way.

It is. And, while it sounds ridiculous in so many instances to sue, can you say with 100 percent confidence you wouldn't do the same thing? I can't.
 
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Junkie said:
I can say with 100 percent confidence that I wouldn't let my kid out of my sight if there was some place nearby from which he could fall 50 feet to his death if left unsupervised.

Agreed.
 
JackReacher said:
JC said:
Junkie said:
A lawsuit? Because the parents weren't watching their kid, it's the Forum's fault?
The American way.

It is. And, while it sounds ridiculous in so many instances to sue, can you say with 100 percent confidence you wouldn't do the same thing? I can't.
In all honesty Sonner I just hope I'm never in that position. Can the Staples center really be blamed for this?
 
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JC said:
JackReacher said:
JC said:
Junkie said:
A lawsuit? Because the parents weren't watching their kid, it's the Forum's fault?
The American way.

It is. And, while it sounds ridiculous in so many instances to sue, can you say with 100 percent confidence you wouldn't do the same thing? I can't.
In all honesty Sonner I just hope I'm never in that position. Can the Staples center really be blamed for this?

If they were in a luxury suite and any alcohol was consumed, it could get ugly for the parents in a court case.
 
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Agreed, JC. I hope I'm never in that position as well. And I have no idea if the Staples Center is to blame. I'm just asking....even if YOU, the parent, were to blame, can you say beyond a shadow of a doubt, that you'd take your medicine and not sue? Lots of people are faced with that decision. A lot of them end up suing.
 
JackReacher said:
Agreed, JC. I hope I'm never in that position as well. And I have no idea if the Staples Center is to blame. I'm just asking....even if YOU, the parent, were to blame, can you say beyond a shadow of a doubt, that you'd take your medicine and not sue? Lots of people are faced with that decision. A lot of them end up suing.
Nobody knows for sure how'd they react but I can say with as much certainty as possible that if were my fault I would not sue. What good would it do?
 
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JackReacher said:
Agreed, JC. I hope I'm never in that position as well. And I have no idea if the Staples Center is to blame. I'm just asking....even if YOU, the parent, were to blame, can you say beyond a shadow of a doubt, that you'd take your medicine and not sue? Lots of people are faced with that decision. A lot of them end up suing.

I think in cases like this people naturally look for others to blame.

The alternative is that you are to blame for your toddler dying.

Understandably, people can't deal with that.
 
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Ace said:
JackReacher said:
Agreed, JC. I hope I'm never in that position as well. And I have no idea if the Staples Center is to blame. I'm just asking....even if YOU, the parent, were to blame, can you say beyond a shadow of a doubt, that you'd take your medicine and not sue? Lots of people are faced with that decision. A lot of them end up suing.

I think in cases like this people naturally look for others to blame.

The alternative is that you are to blame for your toddler dying.

Understandably, people can't deal with that.

Well, there is also the possibility that the structure was actually negligently designed and the company should be held to account for that.

Like I said on the thread about the Notre Dame videographer, I could sue in an instance like this, but I couldn't keep and enjoy the money. The check would go straight to charity.

That aside, as a hardened journalism veteran, few stories upset me. This one hits me in the gut. I'm also the parent of a toddler.
 
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**** Whitman said:
Ace said:
JackReacher said:
Agreed, JC. I hope I'm never in that position as well. And I have no idea if the Staples Center is to blame. I'm just asking....even if YOU, the parent, were to blame, can you say beyond a shadow of a doubt, that you'd take your medicine and not sue? Lots of people are faced with that decision. A lot of them end up suing.

I think in cases like this people naturally look for others to blame.

The alternative is that you are to blame for your toddler dying.

Understandably, people can't deal with that.

Well, there is also the possibility that the structure was actually negligently designed and the company should be held to account for that.

Like I said on the thread about the Notre Dame videographer, I could sue in an instance like this, but I couldn't keep and enjoy the money. The check would go straight to charity.

That aside, as a hardened journalism veteran, few stories upset me. This one hits me in the gut. I'm also the parent of a toddler.

Having a hard time picturing that.
 
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Ace said:
**** Whitman said:
Ace said:
JackReacher said:
Agreed, JC. I hope I'm never in that position as well. And I have no idea if the Staples Center is to blame. I'm just asking....even if YOU, the parent, were to blame, can you say beyond a shadow of a doubt, that you'd take your medicine and not sue? Lots of people are faced with that decision. A lot of them end up suing.

I think in cases like this people naturally look for others to blame.

The alternative is that you are to blame for your toddler dying.

Understandably, people can't deal with that.

Well, there is also the possibility that the structure was actually negligently designed and the company should be held to account for that.

Like I said on the thread about the Notre Dame videographer, I could sue in an instance like this, but I couldn't keep and enjoy the money. The check would go straight to charity.

That aside, as a hardened journalism veteran, few stories upset me. This one hits me in the gut. I'm also the parent of a toddler.

Having a hard time picturing that.

Picturing what? The arena being at fault for poor design? Why?
 
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JC said:
JackReacher said:
Agreed, JC. I hope I'm never in that position as well. And I have no idea if the Staples Center is to blame. I'm just asking....even if YOU, the parent, were to blame, can you say beyond a shadow of a doubt, that you'd take your medicine and not sue? Lots of people are faced with that decision. A lot of them end up suing.
Nobody knows for sure how'd they react but I can say with as much certainty as possible that if were my fault I would not sue. What good would it do?

I mean...say you had a lawyer who thinks you have a damn good shot to win some big, big money by suing....

But you're right...no one knows for sure how they'd react.
 
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JackReacher said:
JC said:
JackReacher said:
Agreed, JC. I hope I'm never in that position as well. And I have no idea if the Staples Center is to blame. I'm just asking....even if YOU, the parent, were to blame, can you say beyond a shadow of a doubt, that you'd take your medicine and not sue? Lots of people are faced with that decision. A lot of them end up suing.
Nobody knows for sure how'd they react but I can say with as much certainty as possible that if were my fault I would not sue. What good would it do?

I mean...say you had a lawyer who thinks you have a damn good shot to win some big, big money by suing....

But you're right...no one knows for sure how they'd react.

I'm all for suing on principle.

I just can't imagine tooling around in my Mercedes that I bought with my kid death money.
 
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**** Whitman said:
Ace said:
**** Whitman said:
Ace said:
JackReacher said:
Agreed, JC. I hope I'm never in that position as well. And I have no idea if the Staples Center is to blame. I'm just asking....even if YOU, the parent, were to blame, can you say beyond a shadow of a doubt, that you'd take your medicine and not sue? Lots of people are faced with that decision. A lot of them end up suing.

I think in cases like this people naturally look for others to blame.

The alternative is that you are to blame for your toddler dying.

Understandably, people can't deal with that.

Well, there is also the possibility that the structure was actually negligently designed and the company should be held to account for that.

Like I said on the thread about the Notre Dame videographer, I could sue in an instance like this, but I couldn't keep and enjoy the money. The check would go straight to charity.

That aside, as a hardened journalism veteran, few stories upset me. This one hits me in the gut. I'm also the parent of a toddler.

Having a hard time picturing that.

Picturing what? The arena being at fault for poor design? Why?

Because the danger is inherent if you are in a luxury suite 50 feet above the next level. Unless the floor or a guard rail gave way to a toddler's weight, I can't envision a design flaw so faulty.

I have been in steep arenas where a person could easily fall down the steps and break his neck. Would that be the arena's fault?

There are certain obvious risks involved when climbing stairs and being around balconies.
 
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