The N-word

[boots]

There is a town in Texas that wants to make it a crime to use the N-Word in public. What's next? More importantly, how will it be enforced?

 

[The Big Ragu]

Am I the only one who finds humor in the fact that you told us about the proposed law, while conspicuously not breaking the proposed law?

 

[boots]

Am I the only one who finds humor in the fact that you told us about the proposed law, while conspicuously not breaking the proposed law?

Proposed Brazoria, Texas Ordinance Banning Use of "******" as a Fighting Word:
The ordinance, as currently drafted, would provide an up to $500 fine for people who "intentionally or knowingly use[] the word '******' in a[n] abusive, indecent, hurtful, degrading or insulting way in a public place, and the use of the word by its very utterance tends to incite an immediate breach of the peace." A few thoughts:

(1) Words that "by [their] very utterance tend[] to incite an immediate breach of the peace" and are "directed to the person of the hearer" -- which is to say personal insults said to a particular person, and not just insulting words about third parties said in a general speech, on a billboard, in a book, and so on -- are indeed unprotected by the First Amendment, under the so-called "fighting words" exception.

(2) This ordinance has no "directed to the person of the hearer" limitation: It would, for instance, ban even "hurtful" or "degrading" uses of "******" in public speeches that aren't directed at any particular person who is to be insulted. If read literally, it would therefore be unconstitutionally overbroad.

(3) A court might interpret the ordinance as implicitly limited to statements "directed to the person of the hearer," especially since a similarly worded state law (see below) has been so read. But the ordinance would still be unconstitutional even with this limitation: While a total ban on all fighting words would be permissible, a selective ban only on racist fighting words -- or only on this racist fighting word -- is unconstitutional. The Supreme Court so held as to a very similar ordinance in R.A.V. v. City of St. Paul (1992).

(4) The ordinance is also superfluous. Texas Penal Code 42.01(a)(1) already makes it an offense if a person "intentionally or knowingly" "uses abusive, indecent, profane, or vulgar language in a public place, and the language by its very utterance tends to incite an immediate breach of the peace"; Texas courts have read this as limited to "fighting words," but of course covering all such insults, not just "******." The offense is "a class C misdemeanor," which may be punished by a fine of up to $500, the same fine the ordinance would impose.

 

[Chef]

Everybody now.

"This thread will not end well."

 

[Guy_Incognito]

I'd love to hear what the constitutional scholar on the thread about reporters contacting families thinks about this one.

 

[boots]

I wonder if those families use the N-word?

 

[John]

What happens if I'm playing Snoop Dogg real loud in my car and the word is clearly audible to the public?

 

[heyabbott]

What happens if I'm playing Snoop Dogg real loud in my car and the word is clearly audible to the public?

then you are going to hell, cause SD is so 1994.

 

[novelist_wannabe]

Oooh, may have to rethink that matinee showing of Blazing Saddles.

 

[Double J]

What happens if I'm playing Snoop Dogg real loud in my car and the word is clearly audible to the public?

then you are going to hell, cause SD is so 1994.

You're just being niggardly.

 

[Chef]

Oooh, may have to rethink that matinee showing of Blazing Saddles.

ooooooooo

aaaaaaaah

 

[fmrsped]

No comment fom Michael Richards, I see.

 

[Football_Bat]

"DEAD HONKY!"

 

[heyabbott]

"DEAD HONKY!"

rack him, out

 

[Shifty Squid]

Just for the record, this is a D_B ...

http://www.sportsjournalists.com/forum/threads/36738/

 

[Oz]

Never saw the first one.

 

[boots]

What if you are at a party and the DJ says "All the Niggas in the house say Ow!!!" What happens then?

 

[Del_B_Vista]

CROWD OF WOMEN: [yelling]

JEWISH OFFICIAL: Matthias, son of Deuteronomy of Gath.

MATTHIAS: Do I say 'yes'?

STONE HELPER #1: Yes.

MATTHIAS: Yes.

OFFICIAL: You have been found guilty by the elders of the town of uttering the name of our Lord, and so, as a blasphemer,...

CROWD: Ooooh!

OFFICIAL: ...you are to be stoned to death.

CROWD: Ahh!

MATTHIAS: Look. I-- I'd had a lovely supper, and all I said to my wife was, 'That piece of halibut was good enough for Jehovah.'

CROWD: Oooooh!

OFFICIAL: Blasphemy! He's said it again!

CROWD: Yes! Yes, he did! He did!...

OFFICIAL: Did you hear him?!

CROWD: Yes! Yes, we did! We did!...

WOMAN #1: Really!

[silence]

OFFICIAL: Are there any women here today?

CROWD: No. No. No. No...

OFFICIAL: Very well. By virtue of the authority vested in me--

[CULPRIT WOMAN stones MATTHIAS]

MATTHIAS: Oww! Lay off! We haven't started yet!

OFFICIAL: Come on! Who threw that? Who threw that stone? Come on.

CROWD: She did! She did! He did! He! He. He. Him. Him. Him. Him. He did.

CULPRIT WOMAN: Sorry. I thought we'd started.

OFFICIAL: Go to the back.

CULPRIT WOMAN: Oh, dear.

OFFICIAL: Always one, isn't there? Now, where were we?

MATTHIAS: Look. I don't think it ought to be blasphemy, just saying 'Jehovah'.

CROWD: Oooh! He said it again! Oooh!...

OFFICIAL: You're only making it worse for yourself!

MATTHIAS: Making it worse?! How could it be worse?! Jehovah! Jehovah! Jehovah!

CROWD: Oooooh!...

OFFICIAL: I'm warning you. If you say 'Jehovah' once more-- [MRS. A. stones OFFICIAL]

Right. Who threw that?

MATTHIAS: [laughing]

[silence]


OFFICIAL: Come on. Who threw that?

CROWD: She did! It was her! He! He. Him. Him. Him. Him. Him. Him.

OFFICIAL: Was it you?

MRS. A.: Yes.

OFFICIAL: Right!

MRS. A.: Well, you did say 'Jehovah'.

CROWD: Ah! Ooooh!...

[CROWD stones MRS. A.]

OFFICIAL: Stop! Stop, will you?! Stop that! Stop it! Now, look! No one is to stone anyone until I blow this whistle! Do you understand?! Even, and I want to make this absolutely clear, even if they do say 'Jehovah'.

CROWD: Ooooooh!...

[CROWD stones OFFICIAL]

WOMAN #1: Good shot!

[clap clap clap]

 

[EStreetJoe]

Oooh, may have to rethink that matinee showing of Blazing Saddles.

He said "The sheriff is near"

 

[RokSki]

I'm not in favor of curtailing free speech, even bull**** speech. Such measures tend to have bad, unintended consequences.