Teacher keeps $90K job after being late 111 times

[Armchair_QB]

 

[outofplace]

"One to two minutes" is well within the margin of error in reconciling two different clocks. And, if he wasn't late
for "class," what was he late for?

On the other hand, nobody ever notified him that he better shape up or losing his job was a possibility? The story said he never got a notice of disciplinary action, but it also says his salary increases were denied as a disciplinary action.

Seems this is being overturned on a Ryan Braun-esque due process technicality rather than anything else.

The major difference being there is no question this guy did exactly what he is accused of, not just in hindsight like Braun. He admits it, but decided the rules don't apply to him as long as it doesn't disrupt actual classes.

And now A_QB thinks he drew me to a thread even though I was posting on it before he did. Darn facts do trouble him so.

 

[93Devil]

If he is an elementary school teacher, chances are he has a homeroom. Many school divisions have extended the school day so much that he might have to report at 7:35 and the buses start letting out at 7:40, so he would need to be there to supervise students since they cannot sit in an empty room without an adult.

The rub is his being late is creating an unsafe environment for students. School is like a press conference or a game; you don't show up late.

Fire his ass.

 

[MisterCreosote]

The major difference being there is no question this guy did exactly what he is accused of, not just in hindsight like Braun. He admits it, but decided the rules don't apply to him as long as it doesn't disrupt actual classes.

Yeah, but after 111 such incidents, without any substantial warning of termination, as far as I can tell, it's as much on the district as it is on the teacher.

If I mispelled a player's name 111 times during a baseball season, and no one said anything about it, why wouldn't I think everything was A-OK?

 

[Vombatus]

Wow, I will never forget the day that this chick showed up for homeroom wearing a halter top. She got hauled out by the vice principal, and returned wearing a sweater. I distinctly remember seeing side boob before the wardrobe change. This was long before I first heard the term "side boob" on Family Guy.

We should have separate threads. Inventor of the halter top, HOF? Inventor of the bikini, HOF?

 

[BDC99]

Wow, I will never forget the day that this chick showed up for homeroom wearing a halter top. She got hauled out by the vice principal, and returned wearing a sweater. I distinctly remember seeing side boob before the wardrobe change. This was long before I first heard the term "side boob" on Family Guy.

We should have separate threads. Inventor of the halter top, HOF? Inventor of the bikini, HOF?

Nice segue for this: I will never forget the day the sexy foreign chick showed up late for homeroom and was trying to sneak to her seat without the teacher seeing. She was crouching her way toward her spot and stopped right in front of the desk next to mine until the teacher looked the other way.
She was wearing a mini skirt ... and sheer panties. Schwing!

 

[Vombatus]

Nice segue for this: I will never forget the day the sexy foreign chick showed up late for homeroom and was trying to sneak to her seat without the teacher seeing. She was crouching her way toward her spot and stopped right in front of the desk next to mine until the teacher looked the other way.
She was wearing a mini skirt ... and sheer panties. Schwing!

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[BDC99]

Jared approves of this message.

Hey, we both about 16! Almost legal!

 

[outofplace]

Yeah, but after 111 such incidents, without any substantial warning of termination, as far as I can tell, it's as much on the district as it is on the teacher.

If I mispelled a player's name 111 times during a baseball season, and no one said anything about it, why wouldn't I think everything was A-OK?

In that scenario, you most likely did not know you were spelling the name incorrectly. This teacher clearly knew he was late. He just thought it was not important. It falls on him for being late and on the administration for letting it go so long before taking action.

 

[outofplace]

If he is an elementary school teacher, chances are he has a homeroom. Many school divisions have extended the school day so much that he might have to report at 7:35 and the buses start letting out at 7:40, so he would need to be there to supervise students since they cannot sit in an empty room without an adult.

The rub is his being late is creating an unsafe environment for students. School is like a press conference or a game; you don't show up late.

Fire his ass.

Not just elementary school. Middle school teachers also often have homerooms. They may also have a hall duty in the morning. I don't think it really matters what is going on at that time in the morning. If the guy has a schedule, he should stick to it.

 

[SpeedTchr]

"I have a bad habit of eating breakfast in the morning, and I lost track of time," he said.

Anderson said he was one to two minutes late to school "at the most" but was prepared and was never late for class.

"I have to cut out eating breakfast at home," he said Friday.


Hey, here's an idea.... GET UP 5 MINUTES EARLIER!

 

[cjericho]

"I have a bad habit of eating breakfast in the morning, and I lost track of time," he said.

Anderson said he was one to two minutes late to school "at the most" but was prepared and was never late for class.

"I have to cut out eating breakfast at home," he said Friday.


Hey, here's an idea.... GET UP 5 MINUTES EARLIER!

That. Or have dinner for breakfast and a liquid lunch at school.

 

[LongTimeListener]

Do some of you really work in a place where there's a huge difference between arriving at 7:59 and getting there at 8:01?

I haven't since my summer in a factory during college.

 

[old_tony]

I'm sure they don't punch a clock there, so if he's only 1 or 2 minutes late, no one would be noticing it. And you're not late 111 times because you "lost track of time" while sitting down to breakfast.

 

[Songbird]

Nice segue for this: I will never forget the day the sexy foreign chick ...

For a second thought you were Cusack.

 

[Armchair_QB]

For a second thought you were Cusack.

One of the greatest movies in American cinematic history.

 

[britwrit]

You know, honestly, I'd be a lot more interested in this story if it involved a thirtyish but still attractive Spanish teacher. And it wasn't her who was constantly late but the junior fullback in her seventh period class. And, lo, one hot May afternoon, when she made him stay after school, to punish him for being oh so bad, and...

Well, that's just me...

 

[Vombatus]

You know, honestly, I'd be a lot more interested in this story if it involved a thirtyish but still attractive Spanish teacher. And it wasn't her who was constantly late but the junior fullback in her seventh period class. And, lo, one hot May afternoon, when she made him stay after school, to punish him for being oh so bad, and...

Well, that's just me...

Pic or GTFO!

 

[User 11148]

Do some of you really work in a place where there's a huge difference between arriving at 7:59 and getting there at 8:01?

I haven't since my summer in a factory during college.

It should be emphasized that the 1 to 2 minutes figure is the one put forth by this guy. Like o_t, I doubt we're having this conversation over a pattern of 1 to 2 minutes.

I will say the old newspaper reporter in me makes it very, very hard for me to be consistently late to anything. And people who are consistently late, even if it's just a minute or two, bug the **** out of me. I have a colleague who NEVER arrives at a meeting on time. Fortunately, we don't have many meetings. But those we do that involve him are almost certain to be interrupted by him coming in several minutes after the start. Oh, and it's also a drop-dead certainty he's going to get a text or a phone call during the meeting.

 

[Songbird]

It should be emphasized that the 1 to 2 minutes figure is the one put forth by this guy. Like o_t, I doubt we're having this conversation over a pattern of 1 to 2 minutes.

I will say the old newspaper reporter in me makes it very, very hard for me to be consistently late to anything. And people who are consistently late, even if it's just a minute or two, bug the **** out of me. I have a colleague who NEVER arrives at a meeting on time. Fortunately, we don't have many meetings. But those we do that involve him are almost certain to be interrupted by him coming in several minutes after the start. Oh, and it's also a drop-dead certainty he's going to get a text or a phone call during the meeting.

I'm generally the Oscar Madison type but am super-anal (Beavis-like laugh, "he said ... anal!") about promptness and punctuality. Was never tardy in 6 years of middle or high school and unless I was covering multiple games in a day or evening, I always arrived to my assignments well ahead of time, sometimes an hour early even if it meant watching chunks of a freshman or JV game. If I went on the road to cover a local team I'd get to that town hours ahead of time so I could check out life there, support that local economy at a coffee shop or bookstore or whatever. /patting myself on the back

Although now that I think about it, I was super-late to the start of a soccer game between local teams (one elite, the other a little train that could but rarely did) and missed a collision that sent the keeper to the hospital with a ruptured spleen or appendix. I reported it after talking to both coaches -- both honest, good guys -- but parents from the elite team thought I was unfair. Another time a news-side guy and I were late to The Pit in Albuquerque for a 9 a.m. girls hoops semifinal (9 ****ing a.m.) because one of his tires went flat an hour north of Roswell. We got there by the end of the 1st quarter.