Synthetic Pot????

[qtlaw]

I just read the report that the LSU players were apparently suspended for smoking synthetic cannabis.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7128059/lsu-tigers-tyrann-mathieu-tharold-simon-spencer-ware-tested-positive-sources-say

I've never heard about this (yes I'm an old guy with young kids so I'm likely out of the loop) but don't people look at what meth and other synthetic drugs do to your body? Don't they at least compare it to what an organic drug does (potheads are simply hungry; their teeth don't fall out and their skin doesn't look like saran wrap around half-eaten drumstick)?

Idiots. Just drink. There's no drug test for inebriation (sp) right?

 

[User 1019]

Yes. Huge problem among young people. Synthetic drugs sold as herbal inscense with names like K2 and Spike 99 (two of the earliest brands) are being made illegal by most states. Although all high-inducing drugs are prohibited by Army regulations, many divisions and brigades are drafting policies directed specifically at these things. Fairly dangerous, from what I understand. There are tests for them, but they are not currently covered under standard Army urinalysis policies. We have to specifically ask for them.

Lots of barracks lawyers think there's no test for them, so they won't get caught. We've had problems with them in the barracks for going on three years.

 

[Evil ... Thy name is Orville Redenbacher!!]

Yes. Huge problem among young people. Synthetic drugs sold as herbal inscense with names like K2 and Spike 99 (two of the earliest brands) are being made illegal by most states. Although all high-inducing drugs are prohibited by Army regulations, many divisions and brigades are drafting policies directed specifically at these things. Fairly dangerous, from what I understand. There are tests for them, but they are not currently covered under standard Army urinalysis policies. We have to specifically ask for them.

Lots of barracks lawyers think there's no test for them, so they won't get caught. We've had problems with them in the barracks for going on three years.

This ... And the ****'s sideffects are waaaaay, waaaaay, waaaaay worse than the natural stuff.

 

[Batman]

This isn't the "spice" or the "bath salts," is it? That stuff is nasty. Makes crystal meth look like a party drug.

 

[qtlaw]

Yes. Huge problem among young people. Synthetic drugs sold as herbal inscense with names like K2 and Spike 99 (two of the earliest brands) are being made illegal by most states. Although all high-inducing drugs are prohibited by Army regulations, many divisions and brigades are drafting policies directed specifically at these things. Fairly dangerous, from what I understand. There are tests for them, but they are not currently covered under standard Army urinalysis policies. We have to specifically ask for them.

Lots of barracks lawyers think there's no test for them, so they won't get caught. We've had problems with them in the barracks for going on three years.

This ... And the ****'s sideffects are waaaaay, waaaaay, waaaaay worse than the natural stuff.

Probably naive but one of the earliest rules I chose to follow was Natural >> synthetic.

 

[PCLoadLetter]

This isn't the "spice" or the "bath salts," is it? That stuff is nasty. Makes crystal meth look like a party drug.

I believe it is "spice".. but "bath salts" are something else.. also nasty as hell.

 

[User 1019]

This isn't the "spice" or the "bath salts," is it? That stuff is nasty. Makes crystal meth look like a party drug.

This is spice or Spike 99 or K2 or Khronic.

 

[Big Circus]

This isn't the "spice" or the "bath salts," is it? That stuff is nasty. Makes crystal meth look like a party drug.

This is spice or Spike 99 or K2 or Khronic.

And it's not all that, truth be told. My boy smoked some and said it was like weed, but with a shorter, more intense high. I wouldn't do it because I don't want to find out what that **** can do to your body, but it's not meth.

 

[qtlaw]

If nothing else, stay organic (as my dr. buddy once told me.)

 

[Batman]

This isn't the "spice" or the "bath salts," is it? That stuff is nasty. Makes crystal meth look like a party drug.

This is spice or Spike 99 or K2 or Khronic.

Gotcha. Similar name, different drug. Equally stupid for two guys with bright futures to be fooling around with.

 

[Steak Snabler]

If nothing else, stay organic (as my dr. buddy once told me.)

As Seth Rogen's dad (Harold Ramis) said in Knocked Up: "No pills, no powders. If it grows in the ground it's probably OK."

And yeah, "spice" has become a huge problem in this area. Our paper won a public service award last year for reporting on early law enforcement efforts to control it, which eventually led to state legislation.

 

[NickMordo]

K2 sucks. So does spice. Only people on probation smoke that ****. Ain't nothin' like the real thang, baby...

 

[Brad Guire]

Ugh, I've done my share of reporting on this in Idaho. What a lot of people find scary is they have no idea as to the long-term effects of smoking this crap. There's no telling what it's going to do to someone's body that could lead to health problems down the road.

The legislature added it to the controlled substances list in the last session, but the cops can hardly enforce it. New chemical compounds hit the market that aren't on the ban list. Also, a presumptive field test doesn't exist. Without that, cops can't hold anyone for possession and ask the prosecutor for a criminal complaint. They can only seize it, send it to the state lab and find out if it's the banned compounds ... about a month later.

So, the cops are trying to go after the smoke shop owners. A lot of them manufacture their own brands with chemicals not on the ban list, so they can stay in business. The law is always a step behind.

Also, with so much pot and meth out there, narcs aren't going to bother with spice unless it becomes a bigger problem.

Anyway, that's what I've learned from my own work, but it's by no means the end-all be-all on the subject.

 

[NoOneLikesUs]

There was a product called "Mr. Nice Guy" marketed here. Sold through gas stations. Kids started flipping out on the stuff and it was banned rather quickly.

 

[Mystery Meat II]

There was a product called "Mr. Nice Guy" marketed here. Sold through gas stations. Kids started flipping out on the stuff and it was banned rather quickly.

I presume at least one newspaper ran a No More Mr. Nice Guy headline.

 

[cyclingwriter]

Sadly ( and I am sort of ashamed to admit this), one of my former co-workers makes "spice" and sells it in local stores. He was laid off as an editor about six months ago, and can't find work. That is his "reasoning."

He doesn't use it, but says the contact from making the stuff just about floors him. Said it is a brutally, intense high.

 

[Bob Cook]

The drug of choice for Hannah Montana.

http://www.tmz.com/2011/02/09/miley-cyrus-salvia-marie-claire-bad-decision-mistake-bong-smoke-video/#.TqGNt94Uqso

 

[Big Circus]

The drug of choice for Hannah Montana.

http://www.tmz.com/2011/02/09/miley-cyrus-salvia-marie-claire-bad-decision-mistake-bong-smoke-video/#.TqGNt94Uqso

Man, I really sound like a grad of Weed College on this thread. I promise I'm not some stoner.

Anyway, I think salvia is something else entirely.

 

[Brian]

Sadly ( and I am sort of ashamed to admit this), one of my former co-workers makes "spice" and sells it in local stores. He was laid off as an editor about six months ago, and can't find work. That is his "reasoning."

He doesn't use it, but says the contact from making the stuff just about floors him. Said it is a brutally, intense high.

New AMC show: "Breaking News Bad"

 

[NickMordo]

The drug of choice for Hannah Montana.

http://www.tmz.com/2011/02/09/miley-cyrus-salvia-marie-claire-bad-decision-mistake-bong-smoke-video/#.TqGNt94Uqso

Man, I really sound like a grad of Weed College on this thread. I promise I'm not some stoner.

Anyway, I think salvia is something else entirely.

Salvia is like a psychadelic, way worse than K2 or spice. The difference is that salvia, like K2 and spice, is still legal and sold in headshops and the like. The effects are much different though. This is what I hear at least... :X