States to EPA ... clean up your act!

[alleyallen]

Interesting, especially in the listing of the states involved in this court action...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080402/ap_on_re_us/greenhouse_gases;_ylt=AgXP5DJO6OBAx_8Cbr2q04FH2ocA

 

[Yawn]

The only surprise is Arizona unless you consider that the growth there is too far ahead of the water and natural resource supply - which affects the environment as much as anything.

 

[alleyallen]

The only surprise is Arizona unless you consider that the growth there is too far ahead of the water and natural resource supply - which affects the environment as much as anything.

All of which has very little to do with the other states on this list...nor with the EPA's failure to do the job it's supposed to do.

 

[Yawn]

The only surprise is Arizona unless you consider that the growth there is too far ahead of the water and natural resource supply - which affects the environment as much as anything.

All of which has very little to do with the other states on this list...nor with the EPA's failure to do the job it's supposed to do.

The only surprise is Arizona unless you consider that the growth there is too far ahead of the water and natural resource supply - which affects the environment as much as anything.

All of which has very little to do with the other states on this list...nor with the EPA's failure to do the job it's supposed to do.

"The plaintiffs in the latest court action include Coakley and attorneys general from Arizona, California, Connecticut, Delaware, Illinois, Iowa, Maine, Maryland, Minnesota, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, Oregon, Rhode Island, Vermont, Washington and the District of Columbia, plus representatives of the Pennsylvania Department of Environmental Protection and the cities of New York and Baltimore, and several environmental organizations."

On our political map, what "color" are these states and knowing that, what's so shocking about their involvement?

 

[GB-Hack]

Do you have to make everything about red and blue? And if so, why?

 

[alleyallen]

The only surprise is Arizona unless you consider that the growth there is too far ahead of the water and natural resource supply - which affects the environment as much as anything.

All of which has very little to do with the other states on this list...nor with the EPA's failure to do the job it's supposed to do.

The only surprise is Arizona unless you consider that the growth there is too far ahead of the water and natural resource supply - which affects the environment as much as anything.

All of which has very little to do with the other states on this list...nor with the EPA's failure to do the job it's supposed to do.

"The plaintiffs in the latest court action include Coakley and attorneys general from Arizona, California, Connecticut, Delaware, Illinois, Iowa, Maine, Maryland, Minnesota, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, Oregon, Rhode Island, Vermont, Washington and the District of Columbia, plus representatives of the Pennsylvania Department of Environmental Protection and the cities of New York and Baltimore, and several environmental organizations."

On our political map, what "color" are these states and knowing that, what's so shocking about their involvement?

So it's the fault of liberals that the EPA doesn't actually, y'know, protect the environment?

 

[Beaker]

Please, the EPA's been a disaster ever since Bush and his cronies got in charge. This what happens when the people in charge of the organization on a national level don't actually care about the environment.

 

[Yawn]

The only surprise is Arizona unless you consider that the growth there is too far ahead of the water and natural resource supply - which affects the environment as much as anything.

All of which has very little to do with the other states on this list...nor with the EPA's failure to do the job it's supposed to do.

The only surprise is Arizona unless you consider that the growth there is too far ahead of the water and natural resource supply - which affects the environment as much as anything.

All of which has very little to do with the other states on this list...nor with the EPA's failure to do the job it's supposed to do.

"The plaintiffs in the latest court action include Coakley and attorneys general from Arizona, California, Connecticut, Delaware, Illinois, Iowa, Maine, Maryland, Minnesota, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, Oregon, Rhode Island, Vermont, Washington and the District of Columbia, plus representatives of the Pennsylvania Department of Environmental Protection and the cities of New York and Baltimore, and several environmental organizations."

On our political map, what "color" are these states and knowing that, what's so shocking about their involvement?

So it's the fault of liberals that the EPA doesn't actually, y'know, protect the environment?

What would be surprising is if Texas was on the list - a state that is populous and has environmental issues in big cities just like the corridor states do.

I'll tell you what else would be surprising - if every effort wasn't ultimately pointed at consumers. You know, people who have to drive to go to work, who live in places where they sure as hell won't spend the billions it will take for mass transit. How about engines that run off recycled water? Hell if they're going to filter pee water for drinking now, why the hell can't they run in cars?

 

[2muchcoffeeman]

Do you have to make everything about red and blue? And if so, why?

Yes, he does. It's the only way he can compensate for certain physical shortcomings.

 

[deskslave]

I'll tell you what would be surprising: If Bush et al would ever require businesses to do anything to help the environment, instead of blindly believing that they'll "just do the right thing." Of course, it's easier just to bleat about how it's not fair that India and China get to do whatever they want and threaten to take your marbles and go home.

 

[Chi City 81]

Do you have to make everything about red and blue? And if so, why?

Yes, he does. It's the only way he can compensate for certain physical shortcomings.

Such as?

 

[sportschick]

Do you have to make everything about red and blue? And if so, why?

Yes, he does. It's the only way he can compensate for certain physical shortcomings.

Such as?

He has a micropenis.

 

[Yawn]

Do you have to make everything about red and blue? And if so, why?

Yes, he does. It's the only way he can compensate for certain physical shortcomings.

Such as?

He has a micropenis.

Yeah? Did you examine it? That's really immature, chick. I thought you were above that. The blowhard, there's no surprise there.

The red/blue isn't contrived by me, it's a matching pattern. Pick what you want to see and not what I said. When a state like Texas going to be a a part of this movement, it will come as a surprise. There is nothing - nada- shocking about the lineup presented in the original post.

 

[GB-Hack]

So why isn't Texas signing up for this movement then? Is it because partisan politics have gotten this bad?

 

[Yawn]

You have to ask this over the examples of the past 16 years? I'm not as idealistic as you are.

 

[GB-Hack]

Well clearly you think there is a disconnect between the states the tend to elect Democratic representitives, and those which elect Rebuplican. Is it so bad now that states can't combine to make things better for the country as a whole?

 

[alleyallen]

Rather than dwell on this pointless aspect of it, I'll ask this: Why does it matter if it's a blue state or a red state? The issue, if you'll recall, is the environment.

Let me ask it from this perspective... If a state has a law that differs from the federal government's (like the growing of medical marijuana), the feds will step in and take action if the state refuses. But since the federal government derives its power from the people and the states, why can't states apply that same mentality? If the feds won't do what they're supposed to do, then the states should be able to take legal action.

Drop all this other B.S. and tell me why this is a bad thing for anyone other than the EPA?

 

[Yawn]

Well clearly you think there is a disconnect between the states the tend to elect Democratic representitives, and those which elect Rebuplican. Is it so bad now that states can't combine to make things better for the country as a whole?

Yeah but why is the insinuation that its the Republicans at fault - always?

 

[hockeybeat]

Well clearly you think there is a disconnect between the states the tend to elect Democratic representitives, and those which elect Rebuplican. Is it so bad now that states can't combine to make things better for the country as a whole?

Yeah but why is the insinuation that its the Republicans at fault - always?

Perhaps you haven't experienced the same rousing success as the rest of us have in the last, oh, seven years.

 

[Fenian_Bastard]

There has always been a disconnect between this adminstration and its declared dedication to "devolving power" back to the states. Ashcroft went after medical-marijuana clubs that were legal under California law, and after Oregon's assisted-suicide statute. It was state officials -- many of them Republican governors, like Foster in Louisiana -- who yelled loudest early on about the unfunded mandate that was NCLB, because it scattered their own hard-won education-reform plans. And now this.