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For those newbies/college students that ask what entry level pay is, check out this link:
http://www.newsguild.org/salary/2006reporterstart.php
 
2muchcoffeeman said:
Those are all union shops, of course. Doesn't cover the thousands of non-union shops in the industry which are free to gouge away.

True, but if you look at the lowest paying of those union shops, I can't imagine a non-union shop paying too much less than that.
 
Clever username said:
Are those weekly numbers?

I would guess yes only because of the papers on the lower end of the scale. For instance the Rochester paper, where the salary is $304. I can't imagine the union letting an employee work for $152 a week (if that's an every-other week pay amount).
 
Clever username said:
Are those weekly numbers?

Yeah, they are. But those are probably averages that take into account that people don't start with the minimum five years experience.
 
Oz said:
Clever username said:
Are those weekly numbers?

Yeah, they are. But those are probably averages that take into account that people don't start with the minimum five years experience.

I'm pretty sure those are numbers for those who rate in with no experience. Were I to start at several of these papers, I would rate in with five years' experience (which is the max for new hires at some Guild papers), even though I really have seven years' experience.
 
EStreetJoe said:
2muchcoffeeman said:
Those are all union shops, of course. Doesn't cover the thousands of non-union shops in the industry which are free to gouge away.

True, but if you look at the lowest paying of those union shops, I can't imagine a non-union shop paying too much less than that.

Well, start imagining. I know plenty of papers in my state that pay WAY less than those bottom numbers.
We're not talking metros, but small dailies and weeklies. They pay down around minimum wage at points.
In fact, I know several reporters who will get raises when the minimum wage hike goes into effect.
How sad is that, especially for people with degrees?
 
I thought we all agreed as sports journalists to take a vow of poverty?
 
ADifferentOkie said:
EStreetJoe said:
2muchcoffeeman said:
Those are all union shops, of course. Doesn't cover the thousands of non-union shops in the industry which are free to gouge away.

True, but if you look at the lowest paying of those union shops, I can't imagine a non-union shop paying too much less than that.

Well, start imagining. I know plenty of papers in my state that pay WAY less than those bottom numbers.
We're not talking metros, but small dailies and weeklies. They pay down around minimum wage at points.
In fact, I know several reporters who will get raises when the minimum wage hike goes into effect.
How sad is that, especially for people with degrees?

"The average reporter starting minimum salary under Guild contracts was $615.01 on Nov. 1, 2006."

That comes out to $15.38 per hour! That's a helluva lot higher compared to my first newspaper gig. I was making $11.05 pr/hr.
 
Sxysprtswrtr said:
ADifferentOkie said:
EStreetJoe said:
2muchcoffeeman said:
Those are all union shops, of course. Doesn't cover the thousands of non-union shops in the industry which are free to gouge away.

True, but if you look at the lowest paying of those union shops, I can't imagine a non-union shop paying too much less than that.

Well, start imagining. I know plenty of papers in my state that pay WAY less than those bottom numbers.
We're not talking metros, but small dailies and weeklies. They pay down around minimum wage at points.
In fact, I know several reporters who will get raises when the minimum wage hike goes into effect.
How sad is that, especially for people with degrees?

"The average reporter starting minimum salary under Guild contracts was $615.01 on Nov. 1, 2006."

That comes out to $15.38 per hour! That's a helluva lot higher compared to my first newspaper gig. I was making $11.05 pr/hr.

Remember, those figures are minimums. Most papers pay people significantly more than that (myself included) or they risk losing them to other papers.
 
What's distressing is how much less effective buying power many mid-sized papers have from previous Guild contracts. Those are some awfully low salaries for place like Rochester, Knoxville and Dayton.
 
IIRC, Rochester's contract expired years ago and that figure is rather old.
 
sportswriter said:
Sxysprtswrtr said:
ADifferentOkie said:
EStreetJoe said:
2muchcoffeeman said:
Those are all union shops, of course. Doesn't cover the thousands of non-union shops in the industry which are free to gouge away.

True, but if you look at the lowest paying of those union shops, I can't imagine a non-union shop paying too much less than that.

Well, start imagining. I know plenty of papers in my state that pay WAY less than those bottom numbers.
We're not talking metros, but small dailies and weeklies. They pay down around minimum wage at points.
In fact, I know several reporters who will get raises when the minimum wage hike goes into effect.
How sad is that, especially for people with degrees?

"The average reporter starting minimum salary under Guild contracts was $615.01 on Nov. 1, 2006."

That comes out to $15.38 per hour! That's a helluva lot higher compared to my first newspaper gig. I was making $11.05 pr/hr.

Remember, those figures are minimums. Most papers pay people significantly more than that (myself included) or they risk losing them to other papers.

I can't speak for your paper, but I get the sense that my paper really doesn't give a damn if anyone leaves. Just an excuse to find someone cheaper, or swallow the job.
 
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