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nafselon

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...I figured you guys needed a new hockey thread for the second season.

Where's the smart money at?

If the league decides to continue to enforce the new rules, it should be exciting.

I'm thinking a rematch of 1999, Dallas v. Buffalo and the Stars win again (and less controversial).
 
I'm reposting this from the other hockey thread:
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And with the Leafs out, who to cheer for?
Well, here I go. First,  the team I WANT to win and who I think will win (in brackets)

East:

Tampa over Ottawa (Tampa in six. Ottawa will choke in the playoffs again, just not against the Leafs))
Montreal over Carolina (Carolina will expose Huet and take them in 5)
Rangers over the Devils (Devils will contain Jagr and there's the Brodeur factor. Devils in 6)
Buffalo over Philly (Speed kills. Once again, no goaltending in Philly. Sabres in 6)

West:

Edmonton over Detroit (predict with my heart--Oilers in 7)
Colorado over Dallas (may be the biggest mismatch of the first round. Dallas in four)
Calgary over Anaheim (The Red Mile will be quieter this year but Flames in 5)
SJ over Nashville (Sharks in five. No Vokoun, no chance

I'm going with a Devils/Flames final.
 
Take a long, last look at the Avs, they'll be breaking that group up after a first-round exit.
 
I'm a Pens fanboy loooser, but I live near the Canes and go to a bunch of their games, so I'm hoping they do well. Am I crazy for thinking the're better off for having drawn the 2 seed instead of the 1? They get Montreal, who they wiped the floor with all season and dodge Tampa. I'm not sure that's such a bad thing. And they may end up with home ice in the East anyway, if the Senators can just do what the Senators do in the playoffs.
 
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Big Buckin' agate_monkey said:
I'm thanking God the season is over for the Hawks and Blues.

Hawks fan here, but feeling the pain of the Blues.

Ditto for the Penguins, who have the joy of building for the future when the draft comes around again. I know the "Pittsburgh First" rallying cry was for the casino-rena proposal in the Steel City, but for a few moments Cougarguy and I thought it was the Penguins fans in jubilation of the fact that yet again, the Pens were in the running to get the top pick in the draft.

I'll be the traditionalist and root for the Canadiens ... I'll dream about a Colorado-Montreal Stanley Cup final ... but I'll hit the local watering hole to watch a Detroit-Ottawa final. ;D

First round
East
Ottawa over Tampa Bay
Montreal over Carolina
New Jersey over N.Y. Rangers
Philadelphia over Buffalo

West
Detroit over Edmonton
Dallas over Colorado
Calgary over Anaheim
San Jose over Nashville
 
cougargirl said:
[ I'll be the traditionalist and root for the Canadiens ... I'll dream about a Colorado-Montreal Stanley Cup final ... but I'll hit the local watering hole to watch a Detroit-Ottawa final.  ;D

And I'd give up my Canadian citizenship if Ottawa won.

But I'm not worried, because they're the Canadian version of Moddy's choking dogs. Tampa will oust them.
 
Are the rules going to stay the same? Why do I get a bad feeling that we are going to see a similar clutch-n-grab exhibition that we've seen over the last few years. The good thing is some of the teams on the bottom half of the brackets (i.e. Lightning, Avs) play open styles and probably won't revert to trapping. But I can't believe the Devils are going to come out and try to do some trapping and play with five back once they get a 1-0, 2-0 lead.
 
JR said:
cougargirl said:
[ I'll be the traditionalist and root for the Canadiens ... I'll dream about a Colorado-Montreal Stanley Cup final ... but I'll hit the local watering hole to watch a Detroit-Ottawa final.  ;D

And I'd give up my Canadian citizenship if Ottawa won.

OUTING ALERT -- JR is Conrad Black.
 
I'd think twice about picking San Jose over Nashville; the Preds haven't skipped a beat since Mason went in goal.
 
TigerVols said:
I'd think twice about picking San Jose over Nashville; the Preds haven't skipped a beat since Mason went in goal.

Well, except in addition to better and proven goaltending, SJ has Thornton and Cheechoo.

And Nashville, in the last six games of the season, played St. Louis twice, Minnesota, Chicago, Phoenix and oh, yeah, Detroit. Not exactly stiff competition. (well, except for the Wings)

Mason is the Cristobal Huet of Nashville. Sharks will pick him part in the series.

And don't get me wrong--I like Nashville a lot but they're gonna be hardpressed without Vokoun.
 
nafselon said:
Are the rules going to stay the same? Why do I get a bad feeling that we are going to see a similar clutch-n-grab exhibition that we've seen over the last few years. The good thing is some of the teams on the bottom half of the brackets (i.e. Lightning, Avs) play open styles and probably won't revert to trapping. But I can't believe the Devils are going to come out and try to do some trapping and play with five back once they get a 1-0, 2-0 lead.
The league will maintain its clampdown on clutching and grabbing; otherwise they'd have given up in January. But you can trap without clutching and grabbing.

A fast team can break the trap.
 
JR said:
nafselon said:
Are the rules going to stay the same? Why do I get a bad feeling that we are going to see a similar clutch-n-grab exhibition that we've seen over the last few years. The good thing is some of the teams on the bottom half of the brackets (i.e. Lightning, Avs) play open styles and probably won't revert to trapping. But I can't believe the Devils are going to come out and try to do some trapping and play with five back once they get a 1-0, 2-0 lead.
The league will maintain its clampdown on clutching and grabbing; otherwise they'd have given up in January. But you can trap without clutching and grabbing.

A fast team can break the trap.

You can trap without clutching and grabbing, but it's so much easier when you are allowed. I'm hopeful the pressure stays on the officials to react quickly to it. I'm hoping for a replay of the 80s-early 90s playoffs in terms of excitement and scoring.
 
Here's my playoff break down as promised

Edmonton 4-3 Detroit
- Edmonton is feeling no pressure now that they've made the playoffs, their speed on lines 1-3 will be tough for an aging Red Wings team to handle, the only question is in goal, and Roloson has been playing better the last few games. Edmonton also took 5 of 8 points fromt he Wings in the season, so they have proven they can beat them. Will be a great series though.

Dallas 4-0 Colorado
- Colorado is over powered at every spot. They slumped hard into the playoffs while the Stars played their normal solid style. Goaltending is the biggest difference where the Avs have none and the Stars have a Vezina candidate.

Anaheim 4-2 Calgary
- Anaheim is a much more rounded team and played better than Calgary down te stretch. The Flames are a one trick pony and if the Ducks can solve Kipper then the series is theirs. Won't be easy though as Ducks will pay the price physically and be ousted quickly by whoever they play in the second round.

San Jose 4-1 Nashville
- the Preds will take one game on emotion at home, but the Sharks are too much for them to handle, especially with a second sting goalie as their go-to guy. Too bad though, I really like Nashville with Vokoun to do some damage.

Eastern Conference
Ottawa 4-1 Tampa Bay
-The Bolts are in way over their heads. The Sens won 12 games in one month with Emery in net  and they can certainly ride him to The finals if he's healthy. Their last game of the season gave them a much needed confidence boost, and if they can stay healthy, watch out. Tampa really hasn't impressed me at all this year and they won't change that in the playoffs. Much to the chagrin of everyone in Toronto, these are not the same Senators of past years. That game against the Leafs was an abberation.

Carolina 4-2 Montreal
The toughest series for me to figure out. Montreal had an outstanding post-Olympic run and if Huet can play up to that previous standard, watch out. However, Carolina is just too rounded a team. They are too deep and have played solid wire-to-wire hockey this season.

New Jersey 4-1 NY Rangers
My previous statement about the Rangers winning the cup be damned. Weekes is not going to carry them to the promised land. Brodeur is looking like he finally regained his form from the last decade and the Devils are white hot right now. Best bet for a Stanley Cup out of the East right now.

Buffalo 4-1 Philly
Buffalo can skate laps around the Flyers. Reminded of a Sather quote in description of Gretzky "You can't hit confetti." The Flyers will not be able to catch the Sabres if the rules are called like they should be. Flyers lucky to win one game maybe.
 
nafselon said:
JR said:
nafselon said:
Are the rules going to stay the same? Why do I get a bad feeling that we are going to see a similar clutch-n-grab exhibition that we've seen over the last few years. The good thing is some of the teams on the bottom half of the brackets (i.e. Lightning, Avs) play open styles and probably won't revert to trapping. But I can't believe the Devils are going to come out and try to do some trapping and play with five back once they get a 1-0, 2-0 lead.
The league will maintain its clampdown on clutching and grabbing; otherwise they'd have given up in January. But you can trap without clutching and grabbing.

A fast team can break the trap.

You can trap without clutching and grabbing, but it's so much easier when you are allowed. I'm hopeful the pressure stays on the officials to react quickly to it. I'm hoping for a replay of the 80s-early 90s playoffs in terms of excitement and scoring.
Like I said, if they wanted to let up on calling it, it would have happened by now. They're sure as not going to let that stuff go right now.
 
JR said:
TigerVols said:
I'd think twice about picking San Jose over Nashville; the Preds haven't skipped a beat since Mason went in goal.

Well, except in addition to better and proven goaltending, SJ has Thornton and Cheechoo.

Good point, except for the fact that Toskala is going to be in net for the Sharks, and he has exactly zero playoff starts as well.

I agree the goaltending will be a big factor in the series, but I think Nashville could still win this series. The key might be the health of Steve Sullivan, who is simply a wizard on the power play.
 
While I'm all for continuing the crackdown, it likely means the end for a lot of the multiple-OT epics that define the playoffs.
 

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