Sports Jobs

[Riddick]

I'm sure most of us frequent the APSE job site. And yes, I know this time of year the board always thins out quite a bit.
But does anyone else worry that one of these times when jobs appear to disappear, that maybe it'll stay that way? That the APSE job site will remain practically vacant?

 

[Diego Marquez]

There sure are fewer of the "moving up" jobs out there, it seems. JJobs is the same way. Cutbacks have made several bigger paper jobs filled before they are ever posted.

 

[John]

It's a great time to be a sports coy editor.

 

[Riddick]

It's ALWAYS a great time to be a sports copy editor

 

[Clever username]

The problem with that board is that costs money to list openings. It hasn't always been that way, and there were more openings on it when it was free for hiring papers to list them.

 

[BYH]

It's a great time to be a sports coy editor.

That's exceedingly well done. Or is it well-done? Whatever.

 

[Tom Petty]

I'm sure most of us frequent the APSE job site. And yes, I know this time of year the board always thins out quite a bit.
But does anyone else worry that one of these times when jobs appear to disappear, that maybe it'll stay that way? That the APSE job site will remain practically vacant?

i guess that's the day we all flood the PR market ... ****, maybe i'll beat all ya'all to it.

 

[fishwrapper]

So, if a tree falls in the woods...

Let me pose this question, since the PR option is always brought up on this board:
If the "media" is shrinking, won't the "media spinners" shrink, too?

 

[Big Buckin' agate_monkey]

I'm sure most of us frequent the APSE job site. And yes, I know this time of year the board always thins out quite a bit.
But does anyone else worry that one of these times when jobs appear to disappear, that maybe it'll stay that way? That the APSE job site will remain practically vacant?

i guess that's the day we all flood the PR market ... ****, maybe i'll beat all ya'all to it.

I win. Went the PR-like alumni magazine route.

 

[Bullwinkle]

Just give me a Yearbook job.

 

[Birdscribe]

So, if a tree falls in the woods...

Let me pose this question, since the PR option is always brought up on this board:
If the "media" is shrinking, won't the "media spinners" shrink, too?

No.

The message has to get out there somehow and somewhere. There will always be some element of "print" media and local TV and radio that demands content. With fewer and fewer reporters and producers, that content will have to come from somewhere.

Us flacks are the "somewhere." You're going to be depending more and more on us to feed the beast.

BBAM, I'm already here as well. Don't plan on returning either.

 

[fishwrapper]

I hope not. God, I hope not.

 

[Big Buckin' agate_monkey]

So, if a tree falls in the woods...

Let me pose this question, since the PR option is always brought up on this board:
If the "media" is shrinking, won't the "media spinners" shrink, too?

No.

The message has to get out there somehow and somewhere. There will always be some element of "print" media and local TV and radio that demands content. With fewer and fewer reporters and producers, that content will have to come from somewhere.

Us flacks are the "somewhere." You're going to be depending more and more on us to feed the beast.

BBAM, I'm already here as well. Don't plan on returning either.

The newspaper is cute as a part-time gig now, but I can't see myself going back full time now either.

 

[Tom Petty]

i ask both BBAM and Bird a simple question: why do neither of you think you'll "go back?"

 

[Birdscribe]

i ask both BBAM and Bird a simple question: why do neither of you think you'll "go back?"

An excellent and fair question, TP, and one answered by simple pragmatism.

Five years ago, I lost my job at a Tribune paper under a more bull**** situation than that experienced by Steve Elling in Orlando. After 10 months of sending out more than 100 resumes to papers all over kingdom come -- including those beneath my experience and talent level -- and getting only two nibbles (for columnist jobs in Colorado Springs and South Bend), I realized the business wanted no part of 37-year-olds with 17 years experience.

It was painful, to say the least. Very painful at times, especially when I'd see people with inferior abilities cruising along at mid-sized or metro dailies -- the same papers that except for a couple of near-misses as a finalist for open jobs -- I couldn't reach.

I was fortunate enough to segue into PR, where I discovered not only a better life and fatter paycheck, but a wealth of opportunties that seem to mushroom with every day's experience. A buddy of mine is on the board of the local PRSA chapter and sends me job leads just for grins and giggles.

On it's worst day, that job board would put the APSE board on its best day to shame.

Not only have I come to grips with it, TP, but I get random offers to freelance prep games. I turn down far more than I accept. I can count on one hand the amount of fall Friday nights I had off in 17 years and I've rather become fond of the concept. Plus, that part of my life -- while a lot of fun -- is over. The only freelancing I really want to do is the stuff I do for golf magazines.

Does that answer the question?

 

[Riddick]

**** Bird. That's such a good answer, it makes me think of hopping unto the PR bandwagon.

 

[fishwrapper]

There are a lot of things that pay more money, doesn't mean I want to do them.

 

[chazp]

i ask both BBAM and Bird a simple question: why do neither of you think you'll "go back?"

An excellent and fair question, TP, and one answered by simple pragmatism.

Five years ago, I lost my job at a Tribune paper under a more bull**** situation than that experienced by Steve Elling in Orlando. After 10 months of sending out more than 100 resumes to papers all over kingdom come -- including those beneath my experience and talent level -- and getting only two nibbles (for columnist jobs in Colorado Springs and South Bend), I realized the business wanted no part of 37-year-olds with 17 years experience.

It was painful, to say the least. Very painful at times, especially when I'd see people with inferior abilities cruising along at mid-sized or metro dailies -- the same papers that except for a couple of near-misses as a finalist for open jobs -- I couldn't reach.

I was fortunate enough to segue into PR, where I discovered not only a better life and fatter paycheck, but a wealth of opportunties that seem to mushroom with every day's experience. A buddy of mine is on the board of the local PRSA chapter and sends me job leads just for grins and giggles.

On it's worst day, that job board would put the APSE board on its best day to shame.

Not only have I come to grips with it, TP, but I get random offers to freelance prep games. I turn down far more than I accept. I can count on one hand the amount of fall Friday nights I had off in 17 years and I've rather become fond of the concept. Plus, that part of my life -- while a lot of fun -- is over. The only freelancing I really want to do is the stuff I do for golf magazines.

Does that answer the question?

17 years experience was the problem. The inferior ones you speak of were probably younger, or "cheaper." No one wanted to pay what you are worth. Every company seems to be looking to go the cheapest route possible. Sad. Glad you have a better paying job now.

 

[Big Buckin' agate_monkey]

I'm 25 and the business scares me right now. I don't want to be wondering every day if that's my last day on the job at my current place.

The university isn't going anywhere. More resources than ever are being put into the book. It's nice to work 9-5. In January, education is virtually free and I'll get a master's in something (not journalism) and I'll make my next move.

 

[Birdscribe]

i ask both BBAM and Bird a simple question: why do neither of you think you'll "go back?"

An excellent and fair question, TP, and one answered by simple pragmatism.

Five years ago, I lost my job at a Tribune paper under a more bull**** situation than that experienced by Steve Elling in Orlando. After 10 months of sending out more than 100 resumes to papers all over kingdom come -- including those beneath my experience and talent level -- and getting only two nibbles (for columnist jobs in Colorado Springs and South Bend), I realized the business wanted no part of 37-year-olds with 17 years experience.

It was painful, to say the least. Very painful at times, especially when I'd see people with inferior abilities cruising along at mid-sized or metro dailies -- the same papers that except for a couple of near-misses as a finalist for open jobs -- I couldn't reach.

I was fortunate enough to segue into PR, where I discovered not only a better life and fatter paycheck, but a wealth of opportunties that seem to mushroom with every day's experience. A buddy of mine is on the board of the local PRSA chapter and sends me job leads just for grins and giggles.

On it's worst day, that job board would put the APSE board on its best day to shame.

Not only have I come to grips with it, TP, but I get random offers to freelance prep games. I turn down far more than I accept. I can count on one hand the amount of fall Friday nights I had off in 17 years and I've rather become fond of the concept. Plus, that part of my life -- while a lot of fun -- is over. The only freelancing I really want to do is the stuff I do for golf magazines.

Does that answer the question?

17 years experience was the problem. The inferior ones you speak of were probably younger, or "cheaper." No one wanted to pay what you are worth. Every company seems to be looking to go the cheapest route possible. Sad. Glad you have a better paying job now.

Bingo.

Or they'd take the path of least resistance and hire someone from two counties away.