SONY hack: Difference between theft and leak

[goalmouth]

Following this but it raises a serious question for journalists: Is there a difference between news orgs using the hacked Sony material and using material that has been purposefully leaked, such as with the NSA story? There is only going to be more of this cyber theft in the future.

 

[TigerVols]

Good question.

I think the whole hacking episode raises a journalism ethics question.

There's no doubt they emails are now public due to a criminal act. Should legit news operations like the LAT be spinning off separate stories based on these illegally obtained documents?

 

[goalmouth]

Not sure emails have been legally labeled as private conversations. Also, how much longer will "in documents obtained by" - outside of FOIA - be considered acceptable use.

 

[Boom_70]

Seems like news organizations operate under a double standard when it comes to a decision whether
to use this stuff or not.

 

[MisterCreosote]

Following this but it raises a serious question for journalists: Is there a difference between news orgs using the hacked Sony material and using material that has been purposefully leaked, such as with the NSA story? There is only going to be more of this cyber theft in the future.

There's an overriding public good, and public service, that can come from publicizing leaked government documents. The government is accountable to us whether it likes it or not.

There is little to no overriding public good that can come from publicizing the hacked Sony stuff.

 

[LongTimeListener]

This whole thing is a ****in' riot.

I loved David Boies' email. YOU CAN'T PRINT THAT! NOT AUTHORIZED!

It's like the people who post Facebook status updates claiming their right to their images.

 

[goalmouth]

Has Wood/stein weighed in on this?

 

[poindexter]

I am trying to figure out the difference between these sony emails and the nude pics stolen and released two months ago.

 

[Boom_70]

I am trying to figure out the difference between these sony emails and the nude pics stolen and released two months ago.

For one, based on new board rules you could post copies of Sony E-mails but not the nude pictures. For
those you would need to provide a link.

 

[Boom_70]

Here's a good one. Phone call between Adrian Peterson and Troy Vincent . On
call Vincent tells Peterson that suspension would be 2 games if he did certain things.

Does not say who did the recording and if they had other particpant's permission.

http://www.si.com/nfl/2014/12/15/adrian-peterson-troy-vincent-audiotape-released?xid=nl_siextra

I'm thinking that Peterson camp was the group who recorded .

 

[Walter Lippmann]

I am trying to figure out the difference between these sony emails and the nude pics stolen and released two months ago.

Sony is a big, bad corporation.

 

[old_tony]

There's an overriding public good, and public service, that can come from publicizing leaked government documents. The government is accountable to us whether it likes it or not.

There is little to no overriding public good that can come from publicizing the hacked Sony stuff.

It's always good to know who the racists are.

 

[RecoveringJournalist]

I am trying to figure out the difference between these sony emails and the nude pics stolen and released two months ago.

The Sony emails did not include pictures of Jennifer Lawrence's tits.

 

[bigpern23]

Here's a good one. Phone call between Adrian Peterson and Troy Vincent . On
call Vincent tells Peterson that suspension would be 2 games if he did certain things.

Does not say who did the recording and if they had other particpant's permission.

http://www.si.com/nfl/2014/12/15/adrian-peterson-troy-vincent-audiotape-released?xid=nl_siextra

I'm thinking that Peterson camp was the group who recorded .

I'm sure it was his camp who recorded it, but the only issue is where Peterson was when he took the call. In many (if not most) states, only one party needs to consent to the recording (i.e., Peterson). Minnesota, Texas and New York statutes all allow one-party consent for recording calls, so there's no legal issue if he was in any of those states when the call occurred.

 

[Boom_70]

I'm sure it was his camp who recorded it, but the only issue is where Peterson was when he took the call. In many (if not most) states, only one party needs to consent to the recording (i.e., Peterson). Minnesota, Texas and New York statutes all allow one-party consent for recording calls, so there's no legal issue if he was in any of those states when the call occurred.

Makes sense. Thx

 

[Armchair_QB]

Really?

http://money.cnn.com/2014/12/17/media/the-interview-sony-theater-owners/

 

[ifilus]

The cyber-terrorists have won!

 

[ifilus]

Rob Lowe : Wow. Everyone caved. The hackers won. An utter and complete victory for them. Wow.

Judd Apatow: I think it is disgraceful that these theaters are not showing The Interview. Will they pull any movie that gets an anonymous threat now?

Jimmy Kimmel: @JuddApatow I agree wholeheartedly. An un-American act of cowardice that validates terrorist actions and sets a terrifying precedent.

Newt Gingrich: @RobLowe it wasn't the hackers who won, it was the terrorists and almost certainly the North Korean dictatorship, this was an act of war

Piers Morgan: What 1st Amendment?

http://www.tmz.com#ixzz3MCWCF7BH

 

[schiezainc]

If Sony had any balls, they'd either 1.) Screen the movie for free nationwide as an act of refusal or 2.) Release the movie on the July 4th holiday but add TWO HOURS to it and have Toby Keith rewrite the entire soundtrack.
It's amazing that this might be the breaking point with our country and North Korea. A F**king Seth Rogen flick.

 

[Jake_Taylor]

74 years ago the Three Stooges and Charlie Chaplin each released films mocking/taking on Hitler. I doubt this movie is going to be the artistic achievement of The Great Dictator and won't be as important in terms of turning people's attention to something going on in another part of the world. I also get that we face completely different kinds of threats today.

But doesn't this feel like a huge regression?