Soccer Apoligists United *NSFW*

[Boom_70]

Here they are - all on one thread.

 

[Claws for Concern]

Re: NHL vs MLS on TV

No fans going after refs in that MLS game.

 

[Pastor]

Re: NHL vs MLS on TV


It is funny that you mention this Boom. Did you know that ESPN MLS Soccer Thursdays are getting better ratings than the NHL on NBC? Did you know that before (and after) the NHL lockout the MetroStars (now known as Red Bull New York) earned better ratings on MSG and FSN NY than the New Jersey Devils and the New York Islanders?

Now, it is all fine and dandy that you don't like the sport and may even find it too slow for you taste. Hey, not everyone likes everything. But for you to somehow pull out of your ass that soccer won't succeed because you view it as slower is rather funny. It becomes even funnier when the factual numbers of ratings come into play.

I won't comment on the actual game itself (it is very possible that it was a bad game). I have not seen it yet. I was out that night have the game sitting in my DVR.

I will state that the game was played in Kansas City in an NFL sized stadium. Such a thing skews the attendance viewing as many seats are not up for sale.

 

[bigpern23]

Re: NHL vs MLS on TV

It is funny that you mention this Boom. Did you know that ESPN MLS Soccer Thursdays are getting better ratings than the NHL on NBC? Did you know that before (and after) the NHL lockout the MetroStars (now known as Red Bull New York) earned better ratings on MSG and FSN NY than the New Jersey Devils and the New York Islanders?

Now, it is all fine and dandy that you don't like the sport and may even find it too slow for you taste. Hey, not everyone likes everything. But for you to somehow pull out of your ass that soccer won't succeed because you view it as slower is rather funny. It becomes even funnier when the factual numbers of ratings come into play.

I won't comment on the actual game itself (it is very possible that it was a bad game). I have not seen it yet. I was out that night have the game sitting in my DVR.

I will state that the game was played in Kansas City in an NFL sized stadium. Such a thing skews the attendance viewing as many seats are not up for sale.

Not calling you a liar or anything, Pastor, but do you have a link to back up those facts?

 

[Big Buckin' agate_monkey]

Re: NHL vs MLS on TV

Not to mention where comparing attendances to a regular season soccer match between two teams with no meaningful history to a Stanly Cup Finals hockey game.

 

[Pastor]

Re: NHL vs MLS on TV

Not to mention where comparing attendances to a regular season soccer match between two teams with no meaningful history to a Stanly Cup Finals hockey game.

Not the Finals, as they haven't been played yet on NBC, the Playoffs. This is a comparison of the NHL on NBC vs. MLS on ESPN. I'll work on getting that link. The information is more than a week old.

 

[PCLoadLetter]

Re: NHL vs MLS on TV

While watching Stanley Cup final on Saturday night I mistakenly clicked over to MLS soccer game - Red Bulls vs KC. It was like slamming on the breaks of a car going 80 MPH.

I could not get over how slow soccer appeared after watching hockey. If the NHL can't make it on TV I just do not see how soccer ever will. There was no energy at all in soccer game. Barely anyone was in the stands.

Speed determines success?

Baseball is doomed.

 

[bostonbred]

Re: NHL vs MLS on TV

I'll take the NHL every single time.

But as long as they stay on Versus, the NHL is screwed. Every major sports league needs ESPN.

 

[bostonbred]

Re: NHL vs MLS on TV

While watching Stanley Cup final on Saturday night I mistakenly clicked over to MLS soccer game - Red Bulls vs KC. It was like slamming on the breaks of a car going 80 MPH.

I could not get over how slow soccer appeared after watching hockey. If the NHL can't make it on TV I just do not see how soccer ever will. There was no energy at all in soccer game. Barely anyone was in the stands.

Speed determines success?

Baseball is doomed.

It's part of the reason why baseball flourished post-'94 and especially once '98 came. Tons of homers being hit. It's why owners, management, officials turned their heads at steriods. Fans would much rather see an 11-10 game than a 1-0 game.

 

[GB-Hack]

Re: NHL vs MLS on TV

I won't comment on the actual game itself (it is very possible that it was a bad game). I have not seen it yet. I was out that night have the game sitting in my DVR.

So you don't want to know the score then?

 

[ondeadline]

Re: NHL vs MLS on TV

It's all a matter of preference. If somebody wants to watch soccer, that's fine. Personally, I'm not into soccer but love hockey.

 

[Boom_70]

Re: NHL vs MLS on TV

Not to mention where comparing attendances to a regular season soccer match between two teams with no meaningful history to a Stanly Cup Finals hockey game.

Word had it though that the Red Bulls and KC did not like each other. It was something to do with the coaches from previous season.

 

[Pastor]

Re: NHL vs MLS on TV

I won't comment on the actual game itself (it is very possible that it was a bad game). I have not seen it yet. I was out that night have the game sitting in my DVR.

So you don't want to know the score then?

I'm sadly aware of the score already. I just haven't been home to watch it.

 

[poindexter]

Re: NHL vs MLS on TV

Maybe Boom tuned in at this moment.

 

[GB-Hack]

Re: NHL vs MLS on TV

Not to mention where comparing attendances to a regular season soccer match between two teams with no meaningful history to a Stanly Cup Finals hockey game.

Word had it though that the Red Bulls and KC did not like each other. It was something to do with the coaches from previous season.

So you sat and watched a little and picked up that nugget, eh Boom? Can't have been as boring as you said.

 

[Boom_70]

Re: NHL vs MLS on TV

Not to mention where comparing attendances to a regular season soccer match between two teams with no meaningful history to a Stanly Cup Finals hockey game.

Word had it though that the Red Bulls and KC did not like each other. It was something to do with the coaches from previous season.

So you sat and watched a little and picked up that nugget, eh Boom? Can't have been as boring as you said.

Well when Shemp Messing said "These are two teams that don't like each other" my ears perked up.

 

[poindexter]

Re: NHL vs MLS on TV

Well when Shemp Messing said "These are two teams that don't like each other" my ears perked up.

When Curly Joe said that the Red Bulls were terrific off of set pieces, Boom really became interested.

 

[dooley_womack1]

Re: NHL vs MLS on TV

And Joe DeRita gave a good explanation of the offside trap.

 

[Big Buckin' agate_monkey]

Re: NHL vs MLS on TV

Not to mention where comparing attendances to a regular season soccer match between two teams with no meaningful history to a Stanly Cup Finals hockey game.

Not the Finals, as they haven't been played yet on NBC, the Playoffs. This is a comparison of the NHL on NBC vs. MLS on ESPN. I'll work on getting that link. The information is more than a week old.

I was refering to Boom's original idea that no one showed up for regular season MLS, compared to the full house for the Cup Finals.

 

[Pastor]

Re: NHL vs MLS on TV

Not to mention where comparing attendances to a regular season soccer match between two teams with no meaningful history to a Stanly Cup Finals hockey game.

Not the Finals, as they haven't been played yet on NBC, the Playoffs. This is a comparison of the NHL on NBC vs. MLS on ESPN. I'll work on getting that link. The information is more than a week old.

I was refering to Boom's original idea that no one showed up for regular season MLS, compared to the full house for the Cup Finals.

My apologies.

Attendance is definitely an issue in MLS. Most of the time the teams play in stadiums too large. Those that play in stadiums more suited draw better.