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goalmouth said:
And nothing about it here? (Because he's no journo?)

It's been mentioned and discussed on at least two other threads, on two different boards.
 
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CD Boogie said:
Batman said:
goalmouth said:
And nothing about it here? (Because he's no journo?)

It's been mentioned and discussed on at least two other threads, on two different boards.

link? I don't see it anywhere.

It's on the most recent pages of the Ray Rice threads on both Journalism Topics and Sports and News. A couple of pages of discussion on both threads.
 
Business Insider: Simmons-launched properties don't generate as much traffic as he thinks and he isn't worth the reported $3 million he makes a year

http://www.businessinsider.com/grantland-and-fivethirtyeight-traffic-2014-10

According to ComScore, Grantland reached 4.8 million people in August 2014. That's pretty small compared with the 25 million people the Gawker Media sports website Deadspin reached in the same month. Grantland grew 19% year-over-year. Deadspin grew 303%. The audience of another competitor, Vox Media's SB Nation, was 13 million.

The comparison is especially ugly for Grantland when you consider that it gets a lot of traffic from ESPN.com, a web giant with roughly 200 million monthly unique visitors.
 
3_Octave_Fart said:
Business Insider: Simmons-launched properties don't generate as much traffic as he thinks and he isn't worth the reported $3 million he makes a year

http://www.businessinsider.com/grantland-and-fivethirtyeight-traffic-2014-10

According to ComScore, Grantland reached 4.8 million people in August 2014. That's pretty small compared with the 25 million people the Gawker Media sports website Deadspin reached in the same month. Grantland grew 19% year-over-year. Deadspin grew 303%. The audience of another competitor, Vox Media's SB Nation, was 13 million.

The comparison is especially ugly for Grantland when you consider that it gets a lot of traffic from ESPN.com, a web giant with roughly 200 million monthly unique visitors.


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The most cursory reading shows that Grantland was never designed to compete with Deadspin and SB Nation any more than fivethirtyeight is supposed to compete with CNN. Its goal, stated by Simmons itself, was to present more ambitious writing. It was a prestige deal for ESPN, like Outside the Lines. Also, they pay Simmons for more than just the site. He's an idea guy at bottom, and they wanted first dibs on any future ideas.
 
Evil ... Thy name is Orville Redenbacher!! said:
3_Octave_Fart said:
Business Insider: Simmons-launched properties don't generate as much traffic as he thinks and he isn't worth the reported $3 million he makes a year

http://www.businessinsider.com/grantland-and-fivethirtyeight-traffic-2014-10

According to ComScore, Grantland reached 4.8 million people in August 2014. That's pretty small compared with the 25 million people the Gawker Media sports website Deadspin reached in the same month. Grantland grew 19% year-over-year. Deadspin grew 303%. The audience of another competitor, Vox Media's SB Nation, was 13 million.

The comparison is especially ugly for Grantland when you consider that it gets a lot of traffic from ESPN.com, a web giant with roughly 200 million monthly unique visitors.


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Jesus, you on one of your benders tonight?

Farts original post was actually interesting, yours? Not so much.
 
Michael_ Gee said:
The most cursory reading shows that Grantland was never designed to compete with Deadspin and SB Nation any more than fivethirtyeight is supposed to compete with CNN. Its goal, stated by Simmons itself, was to present more ambitious writing. It was a prestige deal for ESPN, like Outside the Lines. Also, they pay Simmons for more than just the site. He's an idea guy at bottom, and they wanted first dibs on any future ideas.
Gawker sites tend to cater to puerile dinks and misanthropes, true enough.
But ESPN hired some of the best writers in the industry.
it's a fair guess they wanted to take the hill and not just be some site for boutique journalism.
ESPN has not been in the habit of finishing second.
 
That's interesting. So- Simmons fans can have it both ways.
If Grantland's analytics are bad it's because it was never trying to compete with its peers.
Because it hired the likes of Charlie Pierce so it wouldn't be able to stand toe to toe with fking Deadspin.
 
1. The panache Grantland brings ESPN is valuable in its own way. Like their online OTL brand, it allows them to maintain a certain journalistic/creative integrity when so much content appeals to lowest common denominators.

2. ESPN can afford for their affinity sites to fall short of competitor numbers because these sites don't stand alone. As a package, they offer outlets for several different niches, which, when you're trying to be the one-stop shop for sports fans, has value, as well. See: Sports Illustrated and all of the verticals/affinity sites it has launched in recent months.

3. Comparing apples to apples, I'm betting those numbers aren't so bad. Deadspin isn't really analogous, as so much of their traffic comes from their willingness to post standalone GIFs, **** pics, click-bait, etc. But Grantland certainly did better than Sports on Earth 1.0.
 

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